3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List

[Martin Weidmann]

Hoover, was in control.... If he wanted J.C. Day to swear that he had neglected to inform the FBI that he had found the print on the metal barrel then that's the story Day would spew...and Vince Drain sure as hell knew that he had better dance to Hoover's tune...   

But the evidence list reveals the truth....That smudge that was lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a carcano was listed as item  #14 on the list of the evidence that Day said.... "Vince Drain actually took possession of all of the evidence"

Walt,

I have truly been trying to understand your argument, but I'm still puzzled about what exactly the purpose of your argument is.

Let's for argument's sake say that the index card with the partial palmprint was indeed taken to Drain to Washington on 11/22/63, as you claim. What would be the significance of that?

[John Iacoletti]

Or if, as you say, Hoover was in control, why did Hoover want Day’s story to conflict with Drain’s and Latona’s?

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt,

I have truly been trying to understand your argument, but I'm still puzzled about what exactly the purpose of your argument is.

Let's for argument's sake say that the index card with the partial palmprint was indeed taken to Drain to Washington on 11/22/63, as you claim. What would be the significance of that?

Martin, The official story is:   Lee Oswald's palm print was found on the metal barrel of the rifle when Lt Day disassembled the rifle and found the palm print on the 5/8" diameter metal barrel.  ( only about 1/4" of a 5/8 " diameter metal tube would make contact with a man's palm and that's too small to identify the person who left the print)

There had been NO  identifiable prints found on the rifle ( and even to this very day, no identifiable prints have been found) BUT...Dallas's DA Henry Wade had told reporters that they had found Lee Harrrrvey Ossssswald's prints on the gun...He was lying through his teeth....But they desperately needed something to tie Lee Oswald to the murder, thus the tale about Lt Day finding the print on the metal barrel and his neglecting to tell the FBI that he'd found that print .  The whole tale is BS....  What the "experts" have told us was Oswald's palm print that was lifted from the metal barrel is actually simply an unidentifiable smudge that Lt Day Lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of the carcano. Day spotted what he imagined to be a palm print on that wooden fore grip just minutes after he pulled the rifle from beneath the pallet where the rifle had been carefully hidden ( not carelessly tossed aside as the liars have told us) Day knew the wood of the foregrip would absorb the "print" so he decided to use scotch tape to lift that "print". Tom Alyea watched him as he lifted that smudge and placed the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribbled the pertinent information on that card.   Day wrote... "Off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip " C 2766  .  ( If he had been in the Dallas PD Crime lab he would have used the typewriter and a clean sheet of paper to record the information, and he probably would have written more details about the discovery.)

At the time they released they rifle to the FBI NO IDENTIFIABLE PRINTS had been found on the rifle But the 3 X 5 index card was among the evidence released.   When the FBI examine the lift on Saturday, they reported that the "print" was useless for identification purposes, but after Henry Wade's bold lie they could not let us pissants know that there was no physical evidence that connected Lee Oswald to the rifle....     

Perhaps you're like so many folks.... You simply can't believe that Hoover and LBJ were the prime conspirators.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Probably the weakest case against Hoover and LBJ I've seen so far.

How does a lie by Henry Wade implicate Hoover when Hoover's own finger print expert throws Day under the bus stating there was nothing on that rifle.

You've stopped making any sense.

When a person views a scene from a perspective they have never used everything seems to be out of focus....

"You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus".....  Mark Twain

Would it clear things up a bit if you knew that Henry Wade was one of J.Edgar Hoover's "Extra Special" agents.... A secret undercover agent who reported directly to Hoover.  ( Hoover's private gang)  Hoover had a secret band of agents like a Mafia godfather ..... Those agents were extremely loyal and devoted to Hoover. They had been FBI Special agents and had officially retired, or resigned, but in reality they had became secret agents for J.Edgar Hoover.    If Hoover wanted some "dirty work" done he could place a call to one of his "Extra Special" agents.

[John Iacoletti]

Tom Alyea watched him as he lifted that smudge and placed the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribbled the pertinent information on that card.   

Alyea didn’t say that.

Day wrote... "Off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip " C 2766  .  ( If he had been in the Dallas PD Crime lab he would have used the typewriter and a clean sheet of paper to record the information, and he probably would have written more details about the discovery.)

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

[Walt Cakebread]

Alyea didn’t say that.

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

Alyea didn’t say that.

Oh yes he did!!.... Sorry about your ignorance...

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

You have an aversion for commonsense,.... don't you John

[John Iacoletti]

Alyea didn’t say that.

Oh yes he did!!.... Sorry about your ignorance...

No, Walt. Alyea didn’t say that he watched Day lift a smudge from the foregrip and place the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribble the pertinent information on that card. You made all that up.

You have an aversion for commonsense,.... don't you John

“Common sense” is what you call it when you fabricate a story for which there is no evidence whatsoever.