3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #189 on: November 02, 2019, 02:46:29 PM »
Says the guy who uses “common sense” instead of evidence to decide what’s true.

For a person with commonsense ......They would conclude that 6" X 10" would not be a "small white card"
Jerry Organ posted a photo of the bottom of the stock of a model 91 /38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The bayonet slot is clearly visible , and unless there is something drastically wrong with your eyesight you should be able to see that the so called "palm print" lift on the small white index card was lifted from that area of the WOODEN stock.   It was NOT lifted from the metal barrel.



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #190 on: November 02, 2019, 04:14:53 PM »
For a person with commonsense ......They would conclude that 6" X 10" would not be a "small white card"
Jerry Organ posted a photo of the bottom of the stock of a model 91 /38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The bayonet slot is clearly visible , and unless their is something drastically wrong with your eyesight you should be able to see that the so called "palm print" lift on the small white index card was lifted from that area of the WOODEN stock.   It was NOT lifted from the metal barrel.

There you go again, appealing to your “eyesight” and your “commonsense” instead of evidence.

I’m not convinced that this came from the C2766 rifle at all.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #191 on: November 02, 2019, 06:51:02 PM »
There you go again, appealing to your “eyesight” and your “commonsense” instead of evidence.

I’m not convinced that this came from the C2766 rifle at all.

Oh. well.....You can lead a stupid jackass to water...but you can't make him drink it.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #192 on: November 03, 2019, 04:48:49 AM »
The less evidence Walt has for one of his fabrications, the more insulting he gets.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #193 on: November 03, 2019, 11:29:05 PM »
The less evidence Walt has for one of his fabrications, the more insulting he gets.

Insulting?.... Merely quoting an old axiom......   

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #194 on: November 04, 2019, 08:15:45 PM »
if we “assign” the width to be 6 inches, the the length is 10 inches and the tape is 2 inches.

So you think that a 6" X 10" card would be called "SMALL"  ?


Mr. EISENBERG. I now hand you a small white card marked with certain initials and with a date, "11-22-63." There is a cellophane wrapping, cellophane tape across this card with what appears to be a fingerprint underneath it, and the handwriting underneath that tape is "off underside of gun barrel near end of foregrip C 2766," which I might remark parenthetically is the serial number of Exhibit 139. I ask you whether you are familiar with this item which I hand you, this card?
Mr. LATONA. Yes; I am familiar with this particular exhibit.
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you describe to us what that exhibit consists of, that item rather?
Mr. LATONA. This exhibit Or this item is a lift of a latent palmprint which was evidently developed with black powder.

a small white card marked with certain initials and with a date, "11-22-63." ------------ the handwriting underneath that tape is "off underside of gun barrel near end of foregrip C 2766,"




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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2019, 09:32:31 PM »
For a person with commonsense ......They would conclude that 6" X 10" would not be a "small white card"
Jerry Organ posted a photo of the bottom of the stock of a model 91 /38 Mannlicher Carcano.  The bayonet slot is clearly visible , and unless there is something drastically wrong with your eyesight you should be able to see that the so called "palm print" lift on the small white index card was lifted from that area of the WOODEN stock.   It was NOT lifted from the metal barrel.





Detective Day said that he spotted a print on the SIDE of the barrel about 3 inches back from the end of the muzzle end of the wooden stock.  The place that Mr organ has circled and drawn a line to....( the smaller orange circle) Is about 1/2 inch back from where the end of the wooden stock would be if the stock were on the barrel.




in the colored photo the bayonet groove is clearly visible .....The end of the bayonet groove is about 3 1/2 inches back from the end of the wooden stock.   So Lt Day guessed fairly accurately when he said he found the print about three inches back from the end of the wooden stock.

The only reason that I can imagine that Day used that 3 X 5 card in fabricating the tale about finding the print on the metal barrel is because he knew that  he had sent that card to the FBI and he thought that they would confirm his tale.

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