A Better Sequence (TM DVP)

[Walt Cakebread]

Oh boy, Richard is spinning out of control and losing it. It must be hard to be so obsessed with a "contrarian fantasy world" that doesn't exist.

 Richard is spinning out of control and losing it.

Yes indeed!.... He's lost his rudder and he's headed for the falls on that North African river.... De Nile.....

[John Iacoletti]

In other news, no one saw John Wilkes Booth fire his pistol.  They just heard a loud boom, looked in his direction and saw him pointing a pistol (or some object made of wood) at Lincoln's head.  They just "assumed" he fired the shot.  There is clearly (false) doubt of his guilt.  He was just another actor at his place of employment.  Nothing to see in the contrarian fantasy world.

This false equivalence again.

The point was that you shouldn’t claim a witness saw a rifle being fired if he didn’t see a rifle fired.

[Colin Crow]

Shelly's response to the WC about Rowland's observation. What might be the most important criteria for someone momentarily observing an individual at about 200 feet away......

1. Location (On the 6th floor around the time mentioned)
2. Sex
3. Race
4. Build
5. Other characteristics, eg clothing, age etc....

Whoops.....looks like too much placed on age than location by Shelley.

[Jack Nessan]

There was a black man on the floor, but BRW did not even remotely resemble the man described by Rowland.

So, Rowland's description of the man was incorrect, so what? BRW confirmed he was on the 6th floor.

How can Brennan be expected to see someone that was conjured up out of Rowland's imagination?

It is of no significance what Brennan didn't see. Just because he did not see the man doesn't mean the man wasn't there.

Rowland described in great detail a person that nobody knew, let alone expected to believe it was description of BRW.

Again, even if Rowland's description was incorrect (as was Brennan's description of the shooter), it does not alter the fact that BRW confirmed he was there. If your argument is that Rowland's description was accurate and thus there was another black man on the 6th floor all it really means is that there were two black men on the floor.

The better question is how can Rowland look back at the window for the next five minutes and not see the gunman that was seen by six other people?

What six people would that be?

According to Arnold the SE corner of the 6th floor was vacant after the old wrinkled negro departed, as in there was no one was in the window any more.

The mere fact that you can not see somebody in a particular window doesn't mean there is nobody there.

I honestly do not understand what the point is you are so desperately trying to make.

I honestly do not understand what the point is you are so desperately trying to make.

Actually judging by your post, it appears you understand very well what it means. Just don't like it. Rowland made the whole story up just like a majority of his testimony.

[Jack Nessan]

I guess you get to decide which embellishments are actually true?

You couldn’t possibly know that for a fact. Especially if the assassin only brought 4 bullets.

You couldn’t possibly know that for a fact.

That is true. Given what happened to Tippitt when he encountered LHO, it is a logical assumption. Oswald was a Marine with a military rifle. He did not need the cartridges.

[Jack Nessan]

Other than the perception of “wrinkles”, it fit him just fine. In fact, BRW is the only person known to have been on the sixth floor when Rowland was looking.

Calling it “Rowland’s imagination” doesn’t make it so.

That’s pure BS. There weren’t “six other people” who saw a gunman.

This is the first time I have ever heard that a description of a balding 55 to 60 year old man with wrinkles is a description of a twenty year old. Your slipping John, you are normally way more critical than this.

How does Rowland know he is tall and slender when all he supposedly sees is that he is leaning out of a window?

Excuse me, it was five. I accidently included Rowland's imaginary man with a rifle.

[Jack Nessan]

Mr. BRENNAN. I positively thought that the first shot was a backfire of a motorcycle. And then something made me think that someone was throwing firecrackers from the Texas Book Store, and a possibility it was the second shot. But I glanced up or looked up and I saw this man taking aim for his last shot. The first shot and last shot is my only positive recollection of two shots.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle explode? Did you see the flash of what was either the second or the third shot?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. McCLOY. Could you see that he had discharged the rifle?
Mr. BRENNAN. No. For some reason I did not get an echo at any time. The first shot was positive and clear and the last shot was positive and dear, with no echo on my part.
Mr. McCLOY. Yes. But you saw him aim?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle discharge, did you see the recoil or the flash?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. McCLOY. But you heard the last shot.
Mr. BRENNAN. The report; yes, sir.

Brennan is correct. There are videos of the carcano being fired from the front and there is no muzzle flash and very little recoil.

He stated he seen him fire the rifle at least three different times.

Dallas Morning News Saturday Nov 23, 1964 ---- The Assassin Crouched And Took Deadly Aim by Kent Biffle
"After the first shot, I looked up and saw him. The gun was sticking out of the window. I saw him fire a second time.

FBI Report 11/22
“…... He said the rifle was pointed in the direction of the President’s car when he saw it fired.”

FBI Report 1/7/64
“The car passed out of sight and shortly thereafter, he heard one shot, which he first believed to have been a firecracker, and he immediately looked toward the TSBD building and saw a man on the sixth floor in the same window, near the southeast corner of the building, and noticed that this man took deliberate aim and shot the rifle again.”