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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #904 on: December 06, 2019, 11:01:47 PM »
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What specifically that Jet Black Curtain is hiding is subject to question.

A Jet Black Curtain hangs straight and blocks out the light.



The shadow on Lovelady follows the contours of his shirt, so that's your first mistake and your second mistake is they either painted the shirt black or they did not, when the contrast is increased what should be an even plane is nothing of the sort, there is no "Jet Black" and there was never any "Jet Black".

In fact we see horizontal stripes on the lower part of Lovelady's shirt that are a match for his actual shirt which shows the same horizontal stripes and they also are a similar distance apart, so random artefacts they ain't. We can make out the sharp angle of his collar and the corresponding shadow underneath.





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Re: Those Front Steps
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #905 on: December 06, 2019, 11:08:57 PM »
Friends, what a truly remarkable shadow this shadow down Mr Lovelady's side in Wiegman is!

1. It falls on a man standing in direct sunlight...




Hmmm, a tiny graphic must be hiding something? Oopsies



Because of the drastic perspective shift the most reliable way of placing Lovelady is in 3D.



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #906 on: December 06, 2019, 11:43:37 PM »
A Jet Black Curtain hangs straight and blocks out the light.



The shadow on Lovelady follows the contours of his shirt, so that's your first mistake and your second mistake is they either painted the shirt black or they did not, when the contrast is increased what should be an even plane is nothing of the sort, there is no "Jet Black" and there was never any "Jet Black".

In fact we see horizontal stripes on the lower part of Lovelady's shirt that are a match for his actual shirt which shows the same horizontal stripes and they also are a similar distance apart, so random artefacts they ain't. We can make out the sharp angle of his collar and the corresponding shadow underneath.





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     Here we go again with Mytton's Image Alteration. This is the same kind of stuff Jack White did and he got lambasted for it. Crank that Contrast up even further and maybe we can make out Badge Man standing on the landing.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #907 on: December 07, 2019, 12:26:02 AM »
This is the same kind of stuff Jack White did and he got lambasted for it.

Cite?

Increasing the contrast can not add any detail that wasn't originally exposed on film. DUH!

Along with the lower horizontal stripes sharing the same characteristics, we have the collar on another Lovelady shirt at about the same height and position.



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« Reply #908 on: December 07, 2019, 01:05:12 AM »
Cite?

Increasing the contrast can not add any detail that wasn't originally exposed on film. DUH!

Along with the lower horizontal stripes sharing the same characteristics, we have the collar on another Lovelady shirt at about the same height and position.



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   What you are doing with the above is also validating Ford's 2nd head on the Landing. If you are going to swear by what you are seeing via crappy definition then you also gotta go along with Ford.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #909 on: December 07, 2019, 01:33:51 AM »
The glass door opened inwards and outwards, Mr Storing:



Mr Oswald would have done what Mr Dan Rather is doing here:



He then slips across past Mr Frazier, who is probably the only person who notices him for the very short time he is out there.

There has been legitimate debate as to whether Mr Lovelady is at the edge of the landing or on the top step in Wiegman. (Mr Hackerott for instance offers the former, Mr Stancak the latter.)

What's quite certain either way is that Mr Lovelady is not on the landing after he steps downwards:



And yet---------the magic 'shadow' magically moves down with him!  :D

Of course, the distance between Mr Lovelady and Mr Frazier----------------



------------------, along with the lack of horizontal shadow hitting Mr Lovelady's head, makes it impossible for Mr Lovelady to be anywhere near where poor lost Mr Mytton desperately needs to put him to get him to the shadow line:



This, we recall, is the reason why poor lost Mr Mytton never got back to us with his suggested placement of Mr Frazier in Wiegman---------------to do so would have committed him to a situation in which not alone is Mr Lovelady about to bend down and tie his shoelaces (!!) but he is also standing on Mr Frazier's toes!  :D :D :D


1, Front door swings inward as Oswald exits and is not noticed by Pauline Sanders (purple figure)
2. Pauline Sanders is NOT right in front of the door but is further east of the front door and further forward, such that she would have had LOSto Elm st. Where she is depicted in the overhead plan view (purple figure), her LOS would have been blocked.
3. Prayerblob is approx in the correct position although possibly closer to the west wall , and the white object therefore NOT a hand in the sunliight but is actually a white cup.
4, Lovelady figure is in front of Buell W. Frazier, and closer to the central railing, thus is in full sunlight. This position creates a gap between BW Frazier and Prayerblob, which is where Oswald came out and stood for a brief period of time from approx 12:29 until 12:30:15. This position is approx  indicated in the graphic with the "Love" red disk marker. This is slightly  BEHIND both BWF and Prayerblob, thus Oswald not noticed by BWF nor Prayerblob (possibly Stanton)
5. Because the sunlight illuminates at least 50% of Oswald figure, possibly even had his face at one point in sunlight, this gap had to be darkened by some method to obscure the figure of Oswald.


Now the question of why the conspirators did not attempt to darken out the 2nd head

A. They concluded it was a motion blur effect of Lovelady face
B. The technique they used to add shadow would have taken more time than they had to carefully mask out around Loveladys face.
C. They decided micro shadowing was a greater risk of distortion to Lovelady face, than to just leave the 2nd head unaltered, which they determined was not enough detail to be discerned as Oswalds face, and could be explained as motion blur anyway.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #910 on: December 07, 2019, 01:37:59 AM »

1, Front door swings inward as Oswald exits and is not noticed by Pauline Sanders (purple figure)
2. Pauline Sanders is NOT right in front of the door but is further east of the front door and further forward, such that she would have had LOSto Elm st. Where she is depicted in the overhead plan view (purple figure), her LOS would have been blocked.
3. Prayerblob is approx in the correct position although possibly closer to the west wall , and the white object therefore NOT a hand in the sunliight but is actually a white cup.
4, Lovelady figure is in front of Buell W. Frazier, and closer to the central railing, thus is in full sunlight. This position creates a gap between BW Frazier and Prayerblob, which is where Oswald came out and stood for a brief period of time from approx 12:29 until 12:30:15. This position is approx  indicated in the graphic with the "Love" red disk marker. This is slightly  BEHIND both BWF and Prayerblob, thus Oswald not noticed by BWF nor Prayerblob (possibly Stanton)
5. Because the sunlight illuminates at least 50% of Oswald figure, possibly even had his face at one point in sunlight, this gap had to be darkened by some method to obscure the figure of Oswald.


Now the question of why the conspirators did not attempt to darken out the 2nd head

A. They concluded it was a motion blur effect of Lovelady face
B. The technique they used to add shadow would have taken more time than they had to carefully mask out around Loveladys face.
C. They decided micro shadowing was a greater risk of distortion to Lovelady face, than to just leave the 2nd head unaltered, which they determined was not enough detail to be discerned as Oswalds face, and could be explained as motion blur anyway.

     The issue is the positioning of Lovelady. You have him placed 3+ feet away/West from of the handrail. I do Not buy into that distance

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #910 on: December 07, 2019, 01:37:59 AM »


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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #911 on: December 07, 2019, 01:59:48 AM »
   What you are doing with the above is also validating Ford's 2nd head on the Landing. If you are going to swear by what you are seeing via crappy definition then you also gotta go along with Ford.

What planet are you from, it's chalk and cheese. The second head could be the result of Wiegman's erratic panning or the video transfer or one of the multiple transfers thereafter, but whatever it is or wherever it came from, the blob is in the image that Ford posted.

Anyway, enhancing photographs to bring out detail is standard practice in forensic photography and has been for a very long time. A red contrast filter was used here to bring out detail in this fingerprint.







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