Those Front Steps

[Royell Storing]

And not so long ago you claimed that you had photographic proof that "a few minutes later" in Dealey Plaza, the Presidential Parade was all gone, now you admit you have no idea, nice, thanks for your support.

JohnM

    You claimed it was "DIFFICULT". Difficult is Not the same as impossible. Maybe you mis-spoke? If you want to rescind your "DIFFICULT" declaration, just declare so.  You Goofed. So what? Not the 1st time You have done this.

[Larry Trotter]

Where is your evidence, have you recreated the camera's position at the Depository or in a computer, and then placed Lovelady in all the different possible places along the camera's point of view?

Are you joking this has nothing to do with me! Stop passing the buck. Present some evidence that will dazzle the senses, go ahead and make my day and stop asking people to prove YOUR theory, it's always been YOUR claim and it's YOUR responsibility to prove it. Well? Waiting......

JohnM

Thank you, JohnMytton, for sticking to your forum guns. You are on the correct side of history on this discussion. However, it appears that the agenda continues to forward a "claim", that is non-provable, that LeeHarveyOswald is on the TSBD Bldg entrance landing as the Motorcade drove past..

[John Mytton]

Already done, Mr Mytton------------Messrs Stancak and Hackerott both did meticulous 3D reconstructions of the entranceway at 12.30pm 11/22/63. And guess what? It is simply not possible to put Mr Lovelady anywhere near the natural shadow line of the western column!

No one has been able to challenge their calculations. If you think you can, we're all ears!

Expecting me to go and hunt for your evidence that proves your theory is a waste of my time.
If you had any confidence in your theory, you would have simply posted this evidence?

JohnM

[Alan Ford]

Expecting me to go and hunt for your evidence that proves your theory is a waste of my time.
If you had any confidence in your theory, you would have simply posted this evidence?

JohnM

Oh but I have full confidence in my finding of Mr Oswald just behind Mr Lovelady in Wiegman, Mr Mytton------------and the inability of you or any of your fellow Team Keep LHO Away From The Front Steps fanatics to explain the dark vertical strip down Mr Lovelady has only boosted that confidence! 

Off you scurry!

[Alan Ford]

Now!

It is often claimed that the Altgens photograph-------------------



-----------------corresponds with those frames in Wiegman showing Mr Lovelady at the higher elevation:



However, the correspondence is not punctual. There is a slight time gap between them.

We can see this by comparing and contrasting the position of Mr Lovelady's tshirt relative to his head in the respective images!



In Altgens, Mr Lovelady's upper body would appear to be twisted somewhat as he leans east; in Wiegman, it would appear to be more parallel with the glass doors (but leaning east too).

Now Wiegman shows the second 'Lovelady' head (i.e. Oswald's) moving in relation to Mr Lovelady's:



 In the earliest frames, Mr Oswald's head (the higher of the two) appears on one side of Mr Lovelady's; in the later, on the other:



This leads me to believe Altgens must have been taken just before the first of the Wiegman frames. For Altgens shows a segment of skin just peeking out to Mr Lovelady's left:



Of course this also means that Altgens confirms------------as though confirmation were needed  -------------that the second 'Lovelady' head in Wiegman is real!

 

[Alan Ford]

Now!

To those who still hold out some residual hope that Mr Lovelady in Wiegman might be way over by the shadow line from the western column, consider----------------with the aid of Mr Hackerott's 3D reconstruction-----------------what putting Mr Lovelady far enough west so that the shadow would catch him would do to the spatial relation between Mr Lovelady and PrayerPerson:



No matter which spot on the shadow line you choose to put Mr Lovelady in, he will be blocking PrayerPerson from Wiegman's view!

Now compare what we actually see in Wiegman:



It's not even close! 

And the problem is even worse when Mr Lovelady steps down to a lower elevation, for the lower you go the nearer you have to go to the west wall to catch shadow:



The theory that Mr Lovelady is caught by natural shadow is, always has been and always will be a complete joke!

That dark vertical strip down Mr Lovelady is not, never has been and never will be a natural shadow!


That impossible shadow is the 'smoking gun' in the question of Mr Oswald's whereabouts at the time of the assassination!

[John Mytton]

Now!

To those who still hold out some residual hope that Mr Lovelady in Wiegman might be way over by the shadow line from the western column, consider----------------with the aid of Mr Hackerott's 3D reconstruction-----------------what putting Mr Lovelady far enough west so that the shadow would catch him would do to the spatial relation between Mr Lovelady and PrayerPerson:

Sorry.



JohnM