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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2019, 02:08:32 PM »
So, let me see.........according to you in one film, Prayerman is Bill Shelley, but in the Darnell film,
Oswald cannot be ruled out as being Prayerman.

Er... have you really thought your argument through, Alan?

As far as blackening the photo out, they don't appear to have made a very good job of it,
 as you can see objects in the background if you alter the photoshop settings.



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2019, 05:05:09 PM »
SOLVED!

Friends, if you look closely at the early Wiegman frames of Mr Lovelady, you see something very curious:



That's right------two heads belonging to Mr Lovelady!

Of course, Mr Lovelady only had one head; the other head belongs to Mr Oswald, who is right behind him and is moving his head in order to see past Mr Lovelady. In some of these upper frames his head is completely hidden behind Mr Lovelady's:



Here's a nice frame of Mr Oswald, on the left as we look:



You can see a little piece of Mr Oswald in the Altgens photograph:



All this explains in the simplest way why Mr Lovelady's right side was blacked out--Mr Oswald's presence would have been too obvious otherwise!



Mr Oswald was telling the truth!



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     Claiming the above shows 2 different heads is your interpretation of those images. Assigning 1 of the heads to Oswald is Speculation. Other than the Hosty Notes from the 1st Oswald Interrogation, what other Evidence do you have for assigning an alleged 2nd head to Oswald? (If this is a 2nd head, could it be a quick glimpse of Buell Frazier?)

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2019, 08:20:12 PM »
     Claiming the above shows 2 different heads is your interpretation of those images. Assigning 1 of the heads to Oswald is Speculation. Other than the Hosty Notes from the 1st Oswald Interrogation, what other Evidence do you have for assigning an alleged 2nd head to Oswald? (If this is a 2nd head, could it be a quick glimpse of Buell Frazier?)

Mr Storing, if you can't see that there are two heads there, I'm afraid there's really not much I can do for you.......



Now! Assigning one of the heads-----------



-----------to Mr Oswald is not speculation, it's just common sense.

They hardly would have blacked out obvious evidence of this second man if he were someone other than Mr Oswald. 'Uh oh, boss, that's young Wes Frazier right there behind Lovelady.' 'Call the retouchers, NOW!!'

Unless you have a better explanation for the magic dark strip down Mr Lovelady's side?

By the way, here's Mr Frazier in Wiegman:





Not our man!

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #94 on: October 21, 2019, 09:37:09 PM »
Mr Storing, if you can't see that there are two heads there, I'm afraid there's really not much I can do for you.......



Now! Assigning one of the heads-----------



-----------to Mr Oswald is not speculation, it's just common sense.

They hardly would have blacked out obvious evidence of this second man if he were someone other than Mr Oswald. 'Uh oh, boss, that's young Wes Frazier right there behind Lovelady.' 'Call the retouchers, NOW!!'

Unless you have a better explanation for the magic dark strip down Mr Lovelady's side?

By the way, here's Mr Frazier in Wiegman:





Not our man!

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     No need to get defensive. The image is just Not real clear. If I was not receptive to there possibly being 2 heads, I would Not have asked You if 1 of those heads might be Buell Frazier. Again, is it possible that 1 of those heads might be Buell Frazier's??

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #95 on: October 21, 2019, 10:00:47 PM »
     No need to get defensive. The image is just Not real clear.

If it were real clear, we wouldn't be seeing it-----------it too would have been blacked out!

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If I was not receptive to there possibly being 2 heads, I would Not have asked You if 1 of those heads might be Buell Frazier. Again, is it possible that 1 of those heads might be Buell Frazier's??

Only if Mr Frazier had two heads-----here he is in the Wiegman film!





Pauline Sanders was not that tall!  :D

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2019, 10:14:24 PM »
Now! If no blacking out had been done on this frame, what would we be seeing:



Well, if Mr Oswald is indeed DarnellPrayerMan, then we'd be seeing
---------------Mr Lovelady's right arm (long-sleeved) terminating in a hand
---------------Mr Oswald's right arm (sleeves rolled up) terminating in a hand.

Too many arms/hands-------------they both gotta go!

If Mr Oswald is not DarnellPrayerMan, then we'd be seeing
---------------Mr Lovelady's right arm (long-sleeved) terminating in a hand
---------------Mr Oswald's right arm (long-sleeved?) terminating in a hand.

Too many arms/hands-------------they both gotta go!

And if this frame hadn't had been subjected to blacking out, what would we be seeing?



--------------Mr Lovelady's right side
--------------a full view of Mr Oswald's head and a significant portion of his upper body, for Mr Lovelady has moved downwards while Mr Oswald is still where he was up on the landing

Too much information-------------some of it's gotta go!

Least worst option: let's make it look like a shadow going down Mr Lovelady. No one will ever notice that a shadow on someone standing there is a complete physical impossibility!  Thumb1:


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2019, 10:37:35 PM »
Now!

How did they know where to look for unwelcome evidence of Mr Oswald's alibi in the film & photo evidence? How did they know way back then what we are only now establishing as to the identity of the man behind Mr Lovelady?

Easy: Mr Oswald had told them:



He must have been grilled on his exact whereabouts in that entranceway at the time of the shooting, and he would have happily given them the information they needed.

This is why the Altgens photo gave them such an early fright!

It was a massive stroke of luck for the cover-up investigators that Altgens did not capture more of Mr Oswald than this:



But Wiegman, because of the angle from which it was filmed, proved a major-league headache
-----------------------------nearly as bad as the Baker-Oswald-Truly encounter by the front door which had to be moved up to the second-floor!  :D
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