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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #868 on: December 06, 2019, 01:29:35 AM »
The glass door opened inwards and outwards, Mr Storing:



Mr Oswald would have done what Mr Dan Rather is doing here:



He then slips across past Mr Frazier, who is probably the only person who notices him for the very short time he is out there.

There has been legitimate debate as to whether Mr Lovelady is at the edge of the landing or on the top step in Wiegman. (Mr Hackerott for instance offers the former, Mr Stancak the latter.)

What's quite certain either way is that Mr Lovelady is not on the landing after he steps downwards:



And yet---------the magic 'shadow' magically moves down with him!  :D

Of course, the distance between Mr Lovelady and Mr Frazier----------------



------------------, along with the lack of horizontal shadow hitting Mr Lovelady's head, makes it impossible for Mr Lovelady to be anywhere near where poor lost Mr Mytton desperately needs to put him to get him to the shadow line:



This, we recall, is the reason why poor lost Mr Mytton never got back to us with his suggested placement of Mr Frazier in Wiegman---------------to do so would have committed him to a situation in which not alone is Mr Lovelady about to bend down and tie his shoelaces (!!) but he is also standing on Mr Frazier's toes!  :D :D :D

     My point is those watching the parade would be facing Elm St with their Back facing the door. Anyone Exiting the TSBD during this same time would be opening the door OUTWARD and nailing those standing on the landing in front of the door. With the Landing being Less than 4 feet deep, and the door being 4 Feet Wide, the opening of that door would replicate a windshield wiper fanning across a windshield. The placement of ALL these bodies on the Landing in front of that door, (including your alleged Oswald), defies logic.

Online John Mytton

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #869 on: December 06, 2019, 01:33:55 AM »
This, we recall, is the reason why poor lost Mr Mytton never got back to us with his suggested placement of Mr Frazier in Wiegman---------------to do so would have committed him to a situation in which not alone is Mr Lovelady about to bend down and tie his shoelaces (!!) but he is also standing on Mr Frazier's toes!  :D :D :D

In this blue circle you say you see Frazier's head, really?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



And even if the indistinguishable blob is Frazier, the distance between Lovelady and Frazier is no different to other people in your graphic, it's the forced perspective of the 3D graphic that's confusing you.



Btw we also discussed this, by allowing for Wiegman's line of sight of the surrounding fixed scenery, Lovelady's position is calculated to be about six inches away in the green circle.



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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #870 on: December 06, 2019, 01:36:39 AM »
     My point is those watching the parade would be facing Elm St with their Back facing the door. Anyone Exiting the TSBD during this same time would be opening the door OUTWARD and nailing those standing on the landing in front of the door.

Why would they be opening the door outward when they could open it inward? Look again at the Rather clip!  Thumb1:

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #871 on: December 06, 2019, 01:54:01 AM »
In this blue circle you say you see Frazier's head, really?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

 :D :D :D

Of course this is Mr Frazier!



Why don't you now blow up Mr Lovelady's head in the above to ridiculous pixelated magnitude and cast doubt on its really being Mr Lovelady? What childish games you play, Mr Mytton!  :D

And good luck selling the idea that the horizontal-shadow-escaping Mr Lovelady (green arrow) is standing behind the head-half-in-shadow man marked with pink arrow!





I mean, talk about desperation!  :D

Rational people, meanwhile, can see that Mr Lovelady in Wiegman is in front of that man in Wiegman just as he is in Altgens:



No rational person will believe that Mr Lovelady, standing near the center railing, strained for a better view down Elm Street (Altgens) and then stepped back into the landing and strained for a better view of--------------the west wall (Wiegman1)... And then elected to tie his shoelaces (Wiegman2)!

But that, folks, is the Soopah-Doopah-Mytton-Theory:D
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 02:02:26 AM by Alan Ford »

Online John Mytton

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #872 on: December 06, 2019, 01:55:43 AM »
:D :D :D
But you presented this plumb line as your knock-down argument that you had gotten the railing just right and anyone who disagreed didn't understand 'perspective':

Now, you are starting to understand, the plumb line was the knock-down argument and perfectly defined the horizontal position of the upper post, my estimate of the angle of top railing has no bearing on the horizontal position of the top post and the GIF will always show Lovelady is away from that top post in the shadow.



Btw I'm happy with the above graphic and it shows exactly what I intended, so I don't need to post anymore graphics because this GIF ticked all the boxes and proved what I needed to prove, good luck proving that Lovelady was next to the railing.

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« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 02:09:20 AM by John Mytton »

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #873 on: December 06, 2019, 02:08:14 AM »
:D :D :D

Of course this is Mr Frazier!



Why don't you now blow up Mr Lovelady's head in the above to ridiculous pixelated magnitude and cast doubt on that's really being Mr Lovelady? What silly games you play, Mr Mytton!  :D

And good luck selling the idea that the horizontal-shadow-escaping Mr Lovelady (green arrow) is standing behind the head-half-in-shadow man marked with pink arrow!





I mean, talk about desperation!  :D

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Of course this is Mr Frazier!

No worries, you see what you want to see, it's a predictable pattern and your adding of THREE laughing emoticons really seals the deal.

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Why don't you now blow up Mr Lovelady's head in the above to ridiculous pixellated magnitude and cast doubt on that's really being Mr Lovelady? What silly games you play, Mr Mytton!  :D

It might not be Lovelady but I can see Lovelady's shirt and white T-shirt and he's dressed the same as the man in Altgen's 6 which Lovelady confirms was him in a photo taken only seconds before whereas your blob could be anything, have fun.

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And good luck selling the idea that the horizontal-shadow-escaping Mr Lovelady (green arrow) is standing behind the head-half-in-shadow man marked with pink arrow

Wow, you can see a lot of detail where not enough exists.

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I mean, talk about desperation!  :D

Yep, and you reek of it!

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« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 02:17:01 AM by John Mytton »

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #874 on: December 06, 2019, 02:38:54 AM »
:D :D :D

Yes, the accuracy of this was Scientifically-3D-Mytton-Verified---------


Hilarious, misrepresenting my early "fair game" graphics is all you got.

But eventually you will have to support your own ideas with your own graphics and I can hardly wait to see your Lovelady next to the railing proof.


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