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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #252 on: November 07, 2019, 11:17:49 PM »
      The reason I asked You the question is due to Buell saying he saw Oswald walking up Houston St/alongside the TSBD shortly after the Kill Shot. If he is going to reveal this roughly 50 years after the assassination, why would he shy away from reporting that he saw Oswald on the TSBD steps as the JFK Limo came by the TSBD?

Because it would be so much more momentous a revelation, obviously!

Question for you: Do you believe that Mr Frazier saw Mr Oswald walking up Houston Street/alongside the TSBD several minutes after the kill shot?

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« Reply #253 on: November 07, 2019, 11:25:01 PM »
Because it would be so much more momentous a revelation, obviously!

Question for you: Do you believe that Mr Frazier saw Mr Oswald walking up Houston Street/alongside the TSBD several minutes after the kill shot?

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    No, I do Not believe Frazier saw Oswald at any point-in-time after the Kill Shot. Also, why not refrain from posting that visual aid of the shadows on the TSBD steps/landing? It is speculative and right in line with one of those Zany Mytton Cartoons.

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« Reply #254 on: November 07, 2019, 11:31:59 PM »
    No, I do Not believe Frazier saw Oswald at any point-in-time after the Kill Shot.

So anything Mr Frazier has to reveal late in the day you will dismiss as non-credible. This being the same Mr Frazier's whose failure to reveal Mr Oswald's presence in the entranceway at the time of the assassination you have put forward as a defeater to my claim!  :D

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Also, why not refrain from posting that visual aid of the shadows on the TSBD steps/landing? It is speculative and right in line with one of those Zany Mytton Cartoons.

I'll post whatever I like, thank you, including images that annihilate arguments based on wild misunderstanding about how shadows work!

And-----if you think Mr Stancak (and Mr Hackerott) have gotten the shadows in the entranceway completely wrong, show us your calculations and your 3D reconstruction. Until then you're just blowing hot air out of your pompous... mouth!  Thumb1:

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« Reply #255 on: November 08, 2019, 12:00:38 AM »
So anything Mr Frazier has to reveal late in the day you will dismiss as non-credible. This being the same Mr Frazier's whose failure to reveal Mr Oswald's presence in the entranceway at the time of the assassination you have put forward as a defeater to my claim!  :D

I'll post whatever I like, thank you, including images that annihilate arguments based on wild misunderstanding about how shadows work!

And-----if you think Mr Stancak (and Mr Hackerott) have gotten the shadows in the entranceway completely wrong, show us your calculations and your 3D reconstruction. Until then you're just blowing hot air out of your pompous... mouth!  Thumb1:

       I am willing to hear anyone out. You never know what kernel of truth might come to light. Frazier could be asked a question he has Never been asked before triggering a memory. You just don't know. Living witnesses to the assassination are quickly drying up. They need to be extensively questioned while still here.

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« Reply #256 on: November 08, 2019, 12:03:39 AM »
       I am willing to hear anyone out. You never know what kernel of truth might come to light. Frazier could be asked a question he has Never been asked before triggering a memory. You just don't know. Living witnesses to the assassination are quickly drying up. They need to be extensively questioned while still here.

I agree!  Thumb1:

But! I don't think you do--------------you are just using Mr Frazier as a pretext not to accept that Mr Oswald was out front.

If Mr Frazier were to have his memory 'triggered', you would immediately dismiss it as "an immediate disqualifier".

This, Mr Storing, is known in the trade as 'bad faith'!

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« Reply #257 on: November 08, 2019, 01:29:02 AM »
I agree!  Thumb1:

But! I don't think you do--------------you are just using Mr Frazier as a pretext not to accept that Mr Oswald was out front.

If Mr Frazier were to have his memory 'triggered', you would immediately dismiss it as "an immediate disqualifier".

This, Mr Storing, is known in the trade as 'bad faith'!

      What is clear is that You are afraid that Frazier might definitively state he Never saw Oswald near the TSBD steps shortly before, during, or after the JFK Limo passed by. This comes down to Priorities.  Priority #1 should be finding The Truth. Unfortunately, Your Priority #1 is avoiding anything or anybody that might discredit your Theory.   

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« Reply #258 on: November 08, 2019, 01:55:37 AM »
      What is clear is that You are afraid that Frazier might definitively state he Never saw Oswald near the TSBD steps shortly before, during, or after the JFK Limo passed by. This comes down to Priorities.  Priority #1 should be finding The Truth. Unfortunately, Your Priority #1 is avoiding anything or anybody that might discredit your Theory.

Why would I be afraid of what has already happened, Mr Storing?

Mr Frazier has already repeatedly denied seeing Mr Oswald in the entranceway at the time of the shooting. So what? His denials are belied by the visual evidence I have uncovered!  Thumb1:

As for your position, it is impressively... nuanced:

1. Without Mr. Frazier's confirmation, the claim that Mr Oswald was in the entranceway is a non-starter

2. Should Mr. Frazier's confirmation materialize, I will dismiss it as an immediate disqualifier of the claim that Mr Oswald was in the entranceway.

Way to cover all eventualities!  :D