The Monster Plot, by CIA's Very Own KGB Apologist John L. Hart!

[Michael Clark]

Michael,

Have you watched John Newman's two-part March 2018 youtube video presentation about Bagley's book Spy Wars yet?

-- MWT

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf


 TOP SECRET

13 October 1970

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

Subject: BAGELY, Tennant, Harrington

#386 38

1) On Wednesday, 7 October 1970 I briefed Colonel L. K. White, Executive  Director-Controller on certain reservations I have concerning the proposed promotion of subject to a supergrade position.

 2)  I was very careful to explain to Colonel White at the outset that my reservations had nothing whatsoever to do with Bagely's security status. I explained that it was my conviction that Bagely was almost exclusively responsible for the manner in which the Nosenko case had been handled by our SR division. I said I considered that Bagely lacked objectivity and that he had displayed extremely poor judgment over a two year period in the handling of this case. Specifically as one example of Bagely's extreme prejudice I pointed out that the SR division had neglected to follow up several leads provided by Nosenko which subsequently had been followed up by this office (Bruce Solie) and that this lead us to individuals who have confessed their recruitment and use by the Soviets over an extensive period of time.

3)  I explained further that Bagely displayed extremely poor judgment in the actions he took during that time that  Nosenko was incarcerated at ISOLATION. On many occasions, as the individual responsible for Nosenko's care, I refuse to condone Bagely's  instructions to my people who are guarding him. In one instance Bagely insisted that  Nosenko's food ration be reduced to black bread and water three times daily. After I had briefed Colonel White, he indicated that he would refresh the Director's memory on Bagely's role in the Nosenko case at the time he reviews supergrade promotions. 

 

Howard J. Osborn

Director of Security

[Thomas Graves]

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32359254.pdf


 TOP SECRET

13 October 1970

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

Subject: BAGELY, Tennant, Harrington

#386 38

1) On Wednesday, 7 October 1970 I briefed Colonel L. K. White, Executive  Director-Controller on certain reservations I have concerning the proposed promotion of subject to a supergrade position.

 2)  I was very careful to explain to Colonel White at the outset that my reservations had nothing whatsoever to do with Bagely's security status. I explained that it was my conviction that Bagely was almost exclusively responsible for the manner in which the Nosenko case had been handled by our SR division. I said I considered that Bagely lacked objectivity and that he had displayed extremely poor judgment over a two year period in the handling of this case. Specifically as one example of Bagely's extreme prejudice I pointed out that the SR division had neglected to follow up several leads provided by Nosenko which subsequently had been followed up by this office (Bruce Solie) and that this lead us to individuals who have confessed their recruitment and use by the Soviets over an extensive period of time.

3)  I explained further that Bagely displayed extremely poor judgment in the actions he took during that time that  Nosenko was incarcerated at ISOLATION. On many occasions, as the individual responsible for Nosenko's care, I refuse to condone Bagely's  instructions to my people who are guarding him. In one instance Bagely insisted that  Nosenko's food ration be reduced to black bread and water three times daily. After I had briefed Colonel White, he indicated that he would refresh the Director's memory on Bagely's role in the Nosenko case at the time he reviews supergrade promotions. 

 

Howard J. Osborn

Director of Security

Resentful Howard J. Osborn, who was Chief of the Soviet Russia Division for only a very short time, and who worked in CIA's Office of Security with Bruce "I Got  Duped By "Kitty Hawk," "Fedora" and "Top Hat," Et Al" Solie?

LOL

From an earlier post:

Michael,

In Spy Wars, Bagley says that some "spiteful, under-endowed" CIA officers caused wishful-thinking/"let's move beyond this mess" CIA leadership to conclude, erroneously, that Nosenko was a true defector.

Your Howard J. Osborn had been chief of the Soviet Russia Division for a only a short time when he was replaced by David Murphy, and Osborn's boy, Bruce "Gumshoe" Solie, was not only totally snookered by triple-agent Kochnov into losing a true defector (Artamanov) in the Kittyhawk Affair, but bamboozled by triple-agent Loginov (who, btw, was still alive and doing business in Moscow in 2004, according to Bagley) into believing that Nosenko was ... gasp ... a true defector.

Now, nobody wants to know that they are incompetent or that they've been fooled, and when confronted with facts that tend to indicate that they are incompetent or gullible, many, like Osborn and Solie, become ... well ... spiteful.

It's an unfortunate but natural human reaction.

-- MWT 

[Michael Clark]

Resentful Howard J. Osborn, who was Chief of the Soviet Russia Division for only a very short time, and who worked in CIA's Office of Security with Bruce "I Got  Duped By "Kitty Hawk," "Fedora" and "Top Hat," Et Al" Solie?

LOL

From an earlier post:

Michael,

In Spy Wars, Bagley says that some "spiteful, under-endowed" CIA officers caused wishful-thinking/"let's move beyond this mess" CIA leadership to conclude, erroneously, that Nosenko was a true defector.

Your Howard J. Osborn had been chief of the Soviet Russia Division for a only a short time when he was replaced by David Murphy, and Osborn's boy, Bruce "Gumshoe" Solie, was not only totally snookered by triple-agent Kochnov into losing a true defector (Artamanov) in the Kittyhawk Affair, but bamboozled by triple-agent Loginov (who, btw, was still alive and doing business in Moscow in 2004, according to Bagley) into believing that Nosenko was ... gasp ... a true defector.

Now, nobody wants to know that they are incompetent or that they've been fooled, and when confronted with facts that tend to indicate that they are incompetent or gullible, many, like Osborn and Solie, become ... well ... spiteful.

It's an unfortunate but natural human reaction.

-- MWT 

Bagely is the only one who is spiteful, incompetent, and can’t face that he has been bamboozled. Hart, Heuer, Olson and McCoy all are looking after the agency and being as kind as possible to Bagely. Making clear, to the interested parties of the Agency, that Bagely screwed-up, big time, is not being spiteful, pernicious, disloyal or acting out of any personal animosity or jealousy; they are doing their job. Bagely is the one who is acting like the jilted teen-girl, commenting on the endowments of his colleagues as a defense.

But, Thomas, you just go on, and admire your man’s endowments.

[Thomas Graves]

Bagely is the only one who is spiteful, incompetent, and can’t face that he has been bamboozled. Hart, Heuer, Olson and McCoy all are looking after the agency and being as kind as possible to Bagely. Making clear, to the interested parties of the Agency, that Bagely screwed-up, big time, is not being spiteful, pernicious, disloyal or acting out of any personal animosity or jealousy; they are doing their job. Bagely is the one who is acting like the jilted teen-girl, commenting on the endowments of his colleagues as a defense.

But, Thomas, you just go on, and admire your man’s endowments.

Michael,

A couple of questions for you:

Have you watched the part in John Newman's March 2018 "Spy Wars" presentation where Newman says that many people in CIA expected Bagley to become director of the agency?

Do you really think that, as you told Paul Baranco at the EF, Newman must have had some kind of prior "relationship" with Bagley which enabled Bagley to, in so many words, dupe Newman into believing Golitsyn was a true defector, and Nosenko a false one?

Do you think Newman might be part of "The Deep State"?

Are you going to send Newman and Peter Dale Scott a letter aprising them of how very, very wrong they are about your hero, Nosenko?

--  MWT   

[Michael Clark]

Michael,

A couple of questions for you:

Have you watched the part in John Newman's March 2018 "Spy Wars" presentation where Newman says that many people in CIA expected Bagley to become director of the agency?

Do you really think that, as you told Paul Baranco at the EF, Newman must have had some kind of prior "relationship" with Bagley which enabled Bagley to, in so many words, dupe Newman into believing Golitsyn was a true defector, and Nosenko a false one?

Do you think Newman might be part of "The Deep State"?

Are you going to send Newman and Peter Dale Scott a letter aprising them of how very, very wrong they are about your hero, Nosenko?

--  MWT   

More stupid, inane, questions with false quotes and manipulative paraphrases.

Thomas, you know what people “make-of” people who repeat themselves over and over and over and over again, don’t you?

Now, excuse me whilst I distribute some Osborn memos, will you?

[Michael Clark]

And some more on Bagley,

More from CIA Director of Security, Howard Osborne:

[Thomas Graves]

And some more on Bagely,

Mqore from CIA Director of Security, Howard Osborne:

Michael,

Olson memos?  Did you mean Osborn memos?

If you were to honestly answer my questions, maybe I'd go a little easier on you.

But then again ... Nah, probably not.

Regardless, "false quotes"?  What false quotes?

That Newman said on videotape during his March 2018 "Spy Wars" presentation that many people in CIA believed Bagley was, in so many words, on the fast track to becoming Director of CIA?

You don't believe Bagley said that?

Or that Peter Dale Scott told Newman on videotape that Newman's March 2018 Bagley-based "Spy Wars" presentation had convinced him that Nosenko was a false defector who had been dispatched to the U.S. to discredit Golitsyn?

Or that you told Paul Baranco at the EF that Newman must have had some kind of prior "relationship" with Bagley which enabled Bagley to, in so many words, dupe Newman into believing Golitsyn was a true defector, and Nosenko a false one?

Please clarify, Mike.

If you can.

--  MWT