The Monster Plot, by CIA's Very Own KGB Apologist John L. Hart!

[Thomas Graves]

Nosenko spills the beans on a boatload of KGB operatives:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=121991#relPageId=2&tab=page

Oh my God.

We've already been through this, Michael. Don't you remember?

And don't you remember the standing challenge I gave you several months ago? --

Name one person Nosenko "uncovered" for the FBI or the CIA who was:

1) not already suspected,

- OR -

2) was still working for the KGB or the GRU,

- OR -

3)  still had access to classified information.

Don't you remember how I so methodically shot down all of Richards J. Heuer's candidates?

(Or were they your boy, HSCA perjurer John L. Hart's?)

Cheers!

-- MWT 

PS  How's that letter coming along, Michael?

I mean, I mean, I mean ... you are going to set them straight, aren't you?

(stifled laugh)

[Michael Clark]

Oh my God. We've already been through this, Michael. Don't you remember? And don't you remember the standing challenge I gave you several months ago? -- Name one person Nosenko "uncovered" for the FBI or the CIA who was:1) not already suspected,- OR -2) was still working for the KGB or the GRU,- OR - 3)  still had access to classified information.

Don't you remember how I so methodically shot down all of Richards J. Heuer's candidates?

Thomas, do you have recollections of anything that actually occurred, or just made-up stuff?

And Thomas, wasn’t one of your stipulations that the candidate be born on the third Thursday of a 30- day month and whose mother was left handed?

Thomas, Don’t you remember being told that you are full of beans?

[Thomas Graves]

Thomas, do you have recollections of anything that actually occurred, or just made-up stuff?

Michael,

It's very, very sad to see you so desperate as to have to resort to using Iacoletti's "tactics" when you're ... gasp ... losing yet another debate.

What did I "make up" regarding whether or not your hero, Yuri Nosenko, actually "uncovered" for the FBI or CIA (or any of our allies' intelligence agencies) any active or previously unsuspected KGB/ GRU agents or moles, Michael?

Care to specify?

What, you can't ? ? ? ? ? ?

Tsk, tsk!

(How's that letter to Newman  and Scott coming along, btw? You're gonna set 'em straight for-once-and-for-all, right?)

Cheers!

-- MWT 

EDIT (You're counting them, right?):
HEY, MIKE, WANNA PULL AN ALL-NIGHTER???

[Michael Clark]

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=182449&search=Nosenko#relPageId=108&tab=page

The Case against Nosenko is improbable and indeed impossible.

[Thomas Graves]

. . .

Michael, Michael, Michael ...

Army Sgt. Dayle W. Smith was referenced in the FBI document you posted a couple of posts ago, in which document he was correctly posited (thanks to oh-so-helpful but oh-so-coy Nosenko) as being "Andrey," ... gasp ... "the most important American Intelligence asset the KGB has ever recruited," according to what fake-defector Nosenko told Bagley in Geneva in 1962, and the ostensible reason "The Three Musketeers" (Kovshuk, Guk and Kislov) had journeyed to Washington D.C. in early 1957 -- to "reestablish contact" with this very, very, very, very important spy!

LOL

In reality, Sgt. Smith, aka "Andrey," was a former cipher machine mechanic who had never had access to secret codes, who wasn't even prosecuted when he was "uncovered," and whom the KGB, given the fact that it had to know that true-defector Anatoliy Golitsyn had already told CIA identifying and "connect-the-dots" clues about the Three Musketeers, conveniently used Poor Dayle to hide the real reason the three mysterious swashbucklers had come to D.C. and hung out around (and inside) movie houses for so many months, i.e., to reestablish contact with (or possibly re-recruit) "Popov's Mole," former CIA officer Edward Ellis Smith, and, very probably, to recruit someone in CIA's Soviet Russia Division he had turned KGB onto.

LOL

You really do need to read Bagley's Spy Wars and Ghosts of the Spy Wars, my fwiend.

Have you seen Bagley's "Twenty Questions About Nosenko" near the end of Ghosts of the Spy Wars?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362

Can you answer any of them?

(I sincerely hope Spy Wars and Ghosts of  the Spy Wars aren't too complicated for you, Michael. All those Russian names, and the KGB's artful interweaving, since 1959, of traditional "Active Measures CI Ops" with newfangled Sun Tzu-like "Strategic Deception CI Ops," and everything.)

Cheers!

--  MWT 

[Michael Clark]

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=182449&search=Nosenko#relPageId=109&tab=page

[Thomas Graves]

. . .

Michael,

It's a shame that you seem to be utterly incapable of formulating your own rebuttals to my posts about Nosenko and Golitsyn, et al., but instead must resort to copying and pasting oh-so important-looking but discredited documents and writings that I've already (either preemptively or after-the-fact) demolished by methodically tearing them apart, myself, or by suggesting to you that you swallow your pride and actually read Tennent H. Bagley's Spy Wars and Ghosts of the Spy Wars, and Mark Riebling's book Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and the CIA.

It would appear that you don't read my posts, or if you do, that they cause you so much Cognitive Dissonance Pain that you choose to dismiss their import for psychological reasons and/or that "winning" is so important to you (in a Trump-like way) that all you can think of is finding another misleading document or essay to post in hopes that it will encourage our guests to be just as brainwashed(?) as you evidently are.

Cheers!

--  MWT   


By the way, how is your letter to professors John Newman and Peter Dale Scott coming along? 

You're going to convince them, by turning them onto Five Paths to Judgement and John L. Hart's Monster Plot Report, that your boy Nosenko was a true defector all along, right?

LOL


https://archive.org/details/SpyWarsMolesMysteriesAndDeadlyGames/page/n3

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362

https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity