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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #140 on: August 18, 2019, 01:22:11 AM »
     Euins told HSCA Investigators that he had a camera with him on 11/22/63 and lost track of it. This late addition to his story makes him an unreliable witness.

Royell,

Maybe he didn't want to have his camera or photos confiscated?

Is a "late addition" the same thing as a "lie" in your book?

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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #142 on: August 18, 2019, 01:28:14 AM »
Jerry,

You're making the very common mistake of conflating journalist Anne Donaldson with Patrician Ann Donaldson (maiden name: Patricia Ann Lambert).

Amos Euins was 14 years-old and quite short, and, according to him, he moved from near the curb on Houston over to the short pillar by the reflecting fountain (or whatever it is) as the limo was making the turn onto Elm Street, so it's no surprise that he hasn't been spotted in any of the films (yet).

Rhetorical question: When's the last time you watched The Lost Bullet?

Factoid:  If you watch a clear version of Mark Bell's film and/or Tina Towner's film in slow-motion, you can spot Lambert and her friend Lupe Whittaker (both basically dressed in black) and tall, dressed-in-white Stetson Man (all three of whom are very visible in the Wiegman film), standing on the "island," or maybe in the street just off the tip of the "island," to the right of the TSBD's entrance (from Bell's and Towner's points-of-view).

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I have heard 15 yr old, 11 yr old, 7 yr old and now a 14 yr old.  Get ready to be confused


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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #143 on: August 18, 2019, 01:51:12 AM »

"Amos Euins was 14 years-old and quite short, and, according to him, he moved from near the curb on Houston over to the short pillar by the reflecting fountain (or whatever it is) as the limo was making the turn onto Elm Street, so it's no surprise that he hasn't been spotted in any of the films (yet)."


I have heard 15 yr old, 11 yr old, 7 yr old and now a 14 yr old.


Dear Peter,

Have you ever heard that Amos Euins was "tall," or "full-grown," or even "almost full-grown," anything like that?

Does he look very big to you in the photos and films that were taken that day?

-- MWT   ;)


 

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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #144 on: August 18, 2019, 07:34:07 AM »
"Amos Euins was 14 years-old and quite short, and, according to him, he moved from near the curb on Houston over to the short pillar by the reflecting fountain (or whatever it is) as the limo was making the turn onto Elm Street, so it's no surprise that he hasn't been spotted in any of the films (yet)."

Dear Peter,

Have you ever heard that Amos Euins was "tall," or "full-grown," or even "almost full-grown," anything like that?

Does he look very big to you in the photos and films that were taken that day?

-- MWT   ;)
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #145 on: August 18, 2019, 08:33:06 AM »
And there is more


Dear Peter,

Maybe in the excitement, Euins conflated the skin color of the two black guys leaning out of the 5th floor windows with the hard-to-see(?) skin color of the guy holding the "pipe" out of the Sniper's Nest window.

                       -- or --

Maybe the people who took his report got it wrong.

Who knows?

(BFD)

I still think he's a reliable witness, in The Lost Bullet, as to where the limo was when the first shot rang out, i.e., a little bit past the black-and white freeway signs on that sign post on the "island," which just happens to correlate with what Patricia Ann Donaldson (maiden name: Lawrence; standing on the tip of the "island" or in the street near it) says in The Lost Bullet.

--  MWT   ;)
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #146 on: August 18, 2019, 10:50:15 AM »
Dear Peter,

Maybe in the excitement, Euins conflated the skin color of the two black guys leaning out of the 5th floor windows with the hard-to-see(?) skin color of the guy holding the "pipe" out of the Sniper's Nest window.

                       -- or --

Maybe the people who took his report got it wrong.

Who knows?

(BFD)

I still think he's a reliable witness, in The Lost Bullet, as to where the limo was when the first shot rang out, i.e., a little bit past the black-and white freeway signs on that sign post on the "island," which just happens to correlate with what Patricia Ann Donaldson (maiden name: Lawrence; standing on the tip of the "island" or in the street near it) says in The Lost Bullet.

--  MWT   ;)
Look at him, he looks like CIA without question