Why the first shot missed

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #210 on: January 22, 2025, 11:49:47 PM »
How would I know what was going through Oswald's head?

Exactly.

But you do realize, don't you, that Oswald's using his scope for such a close-up, fast-moving target at "Z-124" would be counterproductive, and if he did try that stunt (using the scope for his first, missing-everything shot), it would probably explain why he missed everything with it.

Either that, or, as Charles Collins hypothesizes, the barrel of his short-rifle bumped the box on the windowsill and caused him it to prematurely "go off."

D'oh.
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #211 on: January 23, 2025, 12:09:25 AM »
Exactly.

Are you trying to make a point? Because it's moot if Oswald never took a shot. He was in the lunch room having a Coke at the time. The Carcano was already ditched and Oswald was waiting for further instructions because he was just the patsy, whether he knew it or not.

If you would like me to speculate, then why would any shooter not use the scope from that distance? Wouldn't you? Sharpshooter Oswald must have used the wonky scope if he missed from that distance, which checkmates your point, no? Do you ever intend to answer any of my questions, or can't you handle the implications?
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2025, 12:20:26 AM »
[Oswald's using or not using the scope] is moot if he never took a shot. He was in the lunchroom having a Coke at the time. The Carcano was already ditched and Oswald was waiting for further instructions because he was just the patsy, whether he knew it or not.

See, that's where 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation and "active measures" ops have really xxxxxx you, and millions of other Americans, up.

Poor widdle self-described Marxist Oswald didn't even own the Carcano, right?

LOL!

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2025, 12:48:59 AM »
See, that's where 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation and "active measures" ops have really xxxxxx you, and millions of other Americans, up.

Poor widdle self-described Marxist Oswald didn't even own the Carcano, right?

LOL!

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Rhymes with mucked.

How old are you? You LNer trolls are the reason I don't bother with this site any more. You have no critical thinking skills and you wouldn't know a fallacy if it bucked (ryhmes with f*cked) you in your arse. The irony is that the Lone Nut Conspiracy Theory has a hold of you Neo.

I have no intention of engaging with you tin foil hat LNers at least until you grow up and learn how to use logic to make an argument. Maybe then you can debate like an adult. Until then, later dude.

 

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2025, 12:55:00 AM »
How old are you? You LNer trolls are the reason I don't bother with this site any more. You have no critical thinking skills and you wouldn't know a fallacy if it bucked (ryhmes with f*cked) you in your arse. The irony is that the Lone Nut Conspiracy Theory has a hold of you Neo. I have no intention of engaging with you tin foil hat LNers at least until you grow up and learn how to use logic to make an argument. Maybe then you can debate like an adult. Until then, later dude.

How old am I? Suffice it to say I've been studying the JFKA for 40-plus years and I used to be a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist like you.

Speaking of logical fallacies, how many bad guys do you figure were involved in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important COVER UP?

Coupla hundred?

Thousands?

"Arse"?

What's that in American English?
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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2025, 01:37:08 AM »
Exactly.

But you do realize, don't you, that Oswald's using his scope for such a close-up, fast-moving target at "Z-124" would be counterproductive, and if he did try that stunt (using the scope for his first, missing-everything shot), it would probably explain why he missed everything with it.

Either that, or, as Charles Collins hypothesizes, the barrel of his short-rifle bumped the box on the windowsill and caused him it to prematurely "go off."

D'oh.

   You LN's buying into Holland's early/missed shot is perfect. CT's can also claim that missed shot came from a 2nd shooter. You're shooting yourself in the foot with that early missed shot. Thanks
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 01:37:43 AM by Royell Storing »

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #216 on: January 23, 2025, 02:08:49 AM »
You LN's buying into Holland's early/missed shot is perfect. CT's can also claim that missed shot came from a 2nd shooter. You're shooting yourself in the foot with that early missed shot. Thanks

Max Holland's hypothesized first shot (which you seem to be obsessed with) was at "Z-107."

Roselle's and Scearce's is at "Z-124" and is based on scientific analysis of seven witnesses' conscious (i.e., not "startle") head movements in reaction to hearing (and possibly feeling) the sounds (and vibrations) from the first shot.

James Tague was probably nicked by a bullet fragment from Oswald's Z-313 head shot and then spaced out on which of the three shots had hit him.

Funny how you've been brainwashed by KGB* disinformation regarding both the JFKA and the Traitorous Orange Turd known as Donald J. Trump.

Sorry, Royell, but I gotta ask ya --

Are you a KGB agent?

In my humble opinion you sound like a KGB agent.

On both accounts.

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