Why the first shot missed

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #175 on: January 06, 2025, 08:05:51 PM »
My above feb2021 wordage was early in my jfk accidental homicide study. I need to bring things up to date.
Today i know that Oswald's shot-1 was at about pseudo Z112, & ricocheted offa the western guyrod of the signal arm at Z113.
Holland said Z103 i think -- i am happy to split the difference.
Holland i think reckoned a ricochet offa the actual signals.
Today i know that the present owner of the original signals (Christopher) wrote that there is no bullet hole or dent in the signals.
Today i know that the main remnant slug of shot-1 made a keyhole shaped hole in the floor of the limo -- between the Connally's jumpseats.
Today i know that the lead splatter hit jfk in the top back right of his head (vizible in xrays).
Re my wordage that Oswald's shot-2 was at Z218 -- today i reckon it was at Z215-216, & hit jfk & Connally at Z218-219.
Hickey's accidental autoburst of at least 4 shots of his AR15 was at say Z300-Z312 -- hit jfk's head at Z312-313.

Re the pipes at the SN affecting Oswald's shot-1 -- i think the pipes might have affected his shot-2 moreso than his shot-1.
Nice work.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #176 on: January 06, 2025, 08:47:02 PM »

The first shot [...] took place even earlier than Z160.


Correct.

Two seconds earlier, at "Z-124."
« Last Edit: January 06, 2025, 08:55:36 PM by Tom Mahon »

Online Royell Storing

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2025, 03:42:16 AM »
Correct.

Two seconds earlier, at "Z-124."

   We gotta problem when conjecture is posted as if it were a fact. The above is an Opinion. Nothing more.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #178 on: January 08, 2025, 05:19:30 AM »

   We gotta problem when conjecture is posted as if it were a fact. The above is an Opinion. Nothing more.


You haven't read the 22-page article by Roselle and Scearce, yet, have you?

https://www.acsr.org/post/estimating-occult-timing-of-surprise-gunshot-sounds-in-silent-film-via-observed-start-of-human-vol


Online Royell Storing

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #179 on: January 08, 2025, 12:14:33 PM »
You haven't read the 22-page article by Roselle and Scearce, yet, have you?

https://www.acsr.org/post/estimating-occult-timing-of-surprise-gunshot-sounds-in-silent-film-via-observed-start-of-human-vol

   We continue coming back to the "ear witness" stuff. You can't have it both ways. You rely on the "ear" and you then have an issue with the time involved to physically work a bolt action rifle.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #180 on: January 08, 2025, 12:23:42 PM »
We continue coming back to the "ear witness" stuff. You can't have it both ways. You rely on the "ear" and you then have an issue with the time involved to physically work a bolt action rifle.

Roselle's and Scearce's study had nothing to do with what those seven witnesses said, but how they were caught on film physically reacting to the sounds of Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot.

Since that shot was at "Z-124" and the next one was at approximately Z-222, Oswald had approximately 5.35 seconds to "work the bolt" and recycle a round into the chamber for his second shot.

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #181 on: January 08, 2025, 12:41:20 PM »

 The reaction you are seeing from people on the film is the result is what they HEARD = EAR. Ear witnesses overwhelmingly have the 2nd and 3rd shots far too close together for those shots to have been fired by the same bolt action rifle. Holland's "The Lost Bullet" displays Amos Euins banging out those 3 shots. Euins demonstration of the timing of Shots #2 and #3 are too close together.