Debunking process

[Thomas Graves]

I'm saying that your claim "according to Jackson . . . someone was sticking a rifle out the sniper's nest window" is false.

Mr. JACKSON - Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I believe it was Tom Dillard from the Dallas News who made some remark as to that sounding like a firecracker, and it could have been somebody else who said that. But someone else did speak up and make that comment and before he actually (finished?) the sentence we heard the other two shots. Then we realized or we thought it was gunfire, and then we could not at that point see the President's car. We were still moving slowly, and after the third shot the second two shots seemed much closer together than the first shot, than they were to the first shot. Then after the last shot, I guess all of us were just looking all around and I just looked straight up ahead of me which would have been looking at the School Book Depository and I noticed two Negro men in a window straining to see directly above them, and my eyes followed right on up to the window above them and I saw the rifle, or what looked like a rifle approximately half of weapon, I guess I saw. and just looked at it, it was drawn fairly slowly back into the building, and I saw no one in the window with it. I didn't even see a form in the window.

Iacoletti,

Maybe there was a plumber or an electrician up there, working during lunchtime, and maybe those two Black guys (Bonnie Ray Williams and Harold Norman) were just looking up there to see if he needed any help!

-- MWT   

PS  Or hey, maybe it was an evil, evil, evil CIA dude who stuck a section of pipe out there while Kennedy was goin' down Elm Street, and then set off a cherry bomb or somethin', just to help frame Oswald after-the-fact!

(I don't suppose Oswald or the Ruskie or Cuban assassin ducked down low so he couldn't be seen by nosey people down at street level before he started a-pullin' the barrel back through the window.)

[Michael O'Brian]

Have you read “Reclaiming History” by Vincent Bugliosi? He believes that he has debunked all of the conspiracy theories.

No I have not read it yet! I wonder how he would have went about  debunking this theory, even though it was only a momentarily possibility, of the line of sight being available from the Dal Tex through the alleged SN window on the 6th floor of the TSBD

[Bill Brown]

I'm saying that your claim "according to Jackson . . . someone was sticking a rifle out the sniper's nest window" is false.

Mr. JACKSON - Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I believe it was Tom Dillard from the Dallas News who made some remark as to that sounding like a firecracker, and it could have been somebody else who said that. But someone else did speak up and make that comment and before he actually the sentence we heard the other two shots. Then we realized or we thought it was gunfire, and then we could not at that point see the President's car. We were still moving slowly, and after the third shot the second two shots seemed much closer together than the first shot, than they were to the first shot. Then after the last shot, I guess all of us were just looking all around and I just looked straight up ahead of me which would have been looking at the School Book Depository and I noticed two Negro men in a window straining to see directly above them, and my eyes followed right on up to the window above them and I saw the rifle, or what looked like a rifle approximately half of weapon, I guess I saw. and just looked at it, it was drawn fairly slowly back into the building, and I saw no one in the window with it. I didn't even see a form in the window.

Is there a point to this nonsense?  Seriously, you don't have bigger fish to fry?  Get a life.

[Thomas Graves]

Is there a point to this nonsense?  Seriously, you don't have bigger fish to fry?  Get a life.

Bill,

In his futile campaign to prove Oswald innocent, Iacoletti attacks the obvious (e.g., that Jackson saw the barrel of a rifle, and that the reason Jackson didn't see anybody up there is probably because the dude or dudette who pulled it back through the window ducked below Jackson's line-of-sight while doing so), and he pushes the implausible, e.g., that the three women on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film are three really cute guys wearing Bermuda shorts, that the glasses a gal is wearing in Betzner-3 are more likely a dragonfly, a tree branch, a floating shadow, or just way-the-heck too much mascara, and that a gal's dark complexion in Z-frame 60 (and those around it) can be explained by the film's highly localized "color saturation".

LOL

-- MWT 

[Bill Brown]

Bill,

Not only does Iacoletti disbelieve the fairly obvious (e.g., that it must have been a rifle barrel that Jackson saw, and the dude or dudette who pulled it back in may have7 ducked below Jackson's line-of-sight while doing so), but he fervently believes in the highly implausible, e.g., that the three women on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film might be three really cute guys wearing Bermuda shorts, instead, that the glasses a gal is wearing in the Betzner-3 photo very well could have been a dragonfly, a tree branch, a floating shadow, or just way-the-heck too much mascara, and that the dark complexion of a gal (self-described American Indian, Stella Mae Jacob) in Zapruder frame 60 (and those around it) was probably caused by ... uhh ... the film's highly localized "color saturation".

LOL

-- MWT 

The guy should spend some time away from this stuff; he's losing it.

[Bill Chapman]

I'm saying that your claim "according to Jackson . . . someone was sticking a rifle out the sniper's nest window" is false.

Mr. JACKSON - Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I believe it was Tom Dillard from the Dallas News who made some remark as to that sounding like a firecracker, and it could have been somebody else who said that. But someone else did speak up and make that comment and before he actually the sentence we heard the other two shots. Then we realized or we thought it was gunfire, and then we could not at that point see the President's car. We were still moving slowly, and after the third shot the second two shots seemed much closer together than the first shot, than they were to the first shot. Then after the last shot, I guess all of us were just looking all around and I just looked straight up ahead of me which would have been looking at the School Book Depository and I noticed two Negro men in a window straining to see directly above them, and my eyes followed right on up to the window above them and I saw the rifle, or what looked like a rifle approximately half of weapon, I guess I saw. and just looked at it, it was drawn fairly slowly back into the building, and I saw no one in the window with it. I didn't even see a form in the window.

Cool

Did anyone else see a rifle in that window, John?

[Bill Chapman]

According to Bob Jackson, Amos Euins and Howard Brennan, someone was sticking a rifle out the sniper's nest window.  Are you really saying that a sniper was firing from the Dal-Tex from a line of sight passing through the sniper's nest (and past the person sticking a rifle out the window) and down onto Elm Street?

Yep. He singlehandedly had the effect of having both camps unite, momentarily, in gales of laughter.