CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?

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Online John Mytton

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #539 on: November 07, 2019, 12:09:38 AM »
The recreation on the right shows ....That the photo is a fake....That is NOT Lee Oswald....

Walt stop digging a deeper hole, no one claimed that the recreated photo was Oswald, I simply posted the image so you could see your error.
Jerry's original post showed Lee Harvey Oswald and you were mistaken, no big deal.

Walt, maybe a pair of these will be an advantage in the future?



Because with "rose coloured glasses" you're only fooling yourself.



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #540 on: November 07, 2019, 12:15:18 AM »
Walt stop digging a deeper hole, no one claimed that the recreated photo was Oswald, I simply posted the image so you could see your error.
Jerry's original post showed Lee Harvey Oswald and you were mistaken, no big deal.

Walt, maybe a pair of these will be an advantage in the future?



Because with "rose coloured glasses" you're only fooling yourself.



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My dear Mr Mytoon...You're an idiot.....   The FBI created fake photos to fool fools.... You have proved that they could fool fools....

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #541 on: November 07, 2019, 12:23:28 AM »
The recreation on the right shows no twisting of the right shirt sleeve at the elbow. So the cuff button and slit are on the lower outer side of the forearm. In the hallway, it seems both of Oswald's shirt sleeves were twisted such that the cuff was not where it normally was. Maybe from was being handled by police who put their hands on his arms just above the elbows.

Now watch Walt claim the fuzz worked in "Indian burns" between phone book poundings.

Maybe Oswald being on the public stage was aware of the hole in the elbow and deliberately tried to hide it, I know I have done similar techniques to hide a flaw or two.

If you zoom in on the hole it's clearly not a fresh tear but a long worn out blackened dirty hole.



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #542 on: November 07, 2019, 12:31:24 AM »
My dear Mr Mytoon...You're an idiot.....   The FBI created fake photos to fool fools.... You have proved that they could fool fools....

Sorry Walt, but the following image is definitely Oswald and you were wrong.



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #543 on: November 07, 2019, 12:42:21 AM »

The reason for their deception.....The FBI was on record as saying that the tuft of fibers that had been found on the butt of the rifle came from the shirt the Lee was wearing  when he was arrested at the theater.    They didn't know ( because of the ineptness of the DPD) that  Lee had changed his shirt at 1:00 pm  before going to the Theater.   But once they were on record as saying the fibers matched the arrest shirt...they had hooked themselves on their own hook......

Even if Oswald wasn't wearing that shirt on the morning of the 22nd it doesn't automatically disqualify him from touching the rifle with that shirt on some previous occasion.
The evidence is 3 fibers from Oswald's shirt were matched to three fiber on Oswald's rifle, btw fiber evidence is still used today.



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #544 on: November 07, 2019, 12:57:14 AM »
For some strange reason, “Mytton” keeps forgetting to include this part:

Mr. STOMBAUGH. There is just no way at this time to be able to positively state that a particular small group of fibers came from a particular source, because there just aren't enough microscopic characteristics present in these fibers.
We cannot say, "Yes, these fibers came from this shirt to the exclusion of all other shirts."

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #545 on: November 07, 2019, 01:06:26 AM »
For some strange reason, “Mytton” keeps forgetting to include this part:

Mr. STOMBAUGH. There is just no way at this time to be able to positively state that a particular small group of fibers came from a particular source, because there just aren't enough microscopic characteristics present in these fibers.
We cannot say, "Yes, these fibers came from this shirt to the exclusion of all other shirts."

And for some even stranger reason you keep forgetting my refutation. Try again!

Another important consideration is coincidence. When fibers that match the clothing fibers of the suspect are found on the clothing of a victim, two conclusions may be drawn: The fibers originated from the suspect, or the fibers originated from another fabric source that not only was composed of fibers of the exact type and color, but was also in a position to contribute those fibers through primary or secondary contact. The likelihood of encountering identical fibers from the environment of a homicide victim (i.e., from his or her residence or friends) is extremely remote.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/july2000/deedric3.htm

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