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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2019, 05:27:33 AM »
This isn't difficult.

Fritz and Holmes testified that Oswald told them that he never had curtain rods.
Frazier testified that Oswald said he was carrying curtain rods.

Fritz and Holmes testified that Oswald said he carried his lunch on his lap.
Frazier testified that Oswald's package was on the back seat of his car.

Who had an incentive to lie, the guy with an alibi verified by photographic evidence or the guy with no alibi who owned the rifle on the 6th floor? Hmmmm?

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2019, 07:23:46 AM »
This isn't difficult.

Fritz and Holmes testified that Oswald told them that he never had curtain rods.
Frazier testified that Oswald said he was carrying curtain rods.

Fritz and Holmes testified that Oswald said he carried his lunch on his lap.
Frazier testified that Oswald's package was on the back seat of his car.

Who had an incentive to lie, the guy with an alibi verified by photographic evidence or the guy with no alibi who owned the rifle on the 6th floor? Hmmmm?

JohnM

This isn't so easy. Are you repeating the same stuff and expecting a different outcome?

Frazier shown CE142 on the night of the 22nd, undertook polygraph and apparently passed......go figure. Wonder if he said not paying attention then.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2019, 08:29:02 AM »
This isn't so easy. Are you repeating the same stuff and expecting a different outcome?

Frazier shown CE142 on the night of the 22nd, undertook polygraph and apparently passed......go figure. Wonder if he said not paying attention then.

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This isn't so easy.

Wrong!

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Are you repeating the same stuff and expecting a different outcome?

Sorry if the actual evidence is so inconvenient but it is what it is.

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Frazier shown CE142 on the night of the 22nd, undertook polygraph and apparently passed......go figure. Wonder if he said not paying attention then.

Huh? Frazier had no choice but to admit that Oswald carried CE142 and Frazier being the simpleton who no doubt believed that "lie detector" tests were faultless told the truth.

JohnM

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2019, 08:57:30 AM »
Wrong!

Sorry if the actual evidence is so inconvenient but it is what it is.

Huh? Frazier had no choice but to admit that Oswald carried CE142 and Frazier being the simpleton who no doubt believed that "lie detector" tests were faultless told the truth.

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Frazier had no choice but to admit that Oswald carried CE142

except for the fact that Frazier never ever admitted any such thing, you are absolutely right  Thumb1:


and Frazier being the simpleton who no doubt believed that "lie detector" tests were faultless told the truth.

Indeed! Which was that the bag shown to him (CE142) was in fact not the bag he had seen Oswald carry. He also added that Oswald's bag was a flimsy sack which CE142, made of shipping paper, cleary isn't. So, yes, Frazier did tell the truth!
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2019, 09:01:56 AM »
Wrong!

Sorry if the actual evidence is so inconvenient but it is what it is.

Huh? Frazier had no choice but to admit that Oswald carried CE142 and Frazier being the simpleton who no doubt believed that "lie detector" tests were faultless told the truth.

JohnM

I read somewhere that lie detectors only work if you believe they do.....QED.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2019, 09:35:27 AM »
I read somewhere that lie detectors only work if you believe they do.....QED.

Much like nitrate tests and the threat of violence, lie detectors were used as a bluff to extract information. And don't forget that Oswald who like Frazier wasn't exactly bright, also refused a Polygraph.

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Re: Buell's "off" day (aka: oh yeah)
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2019, 09:37:38 AM »
Much like nitrate tests and the threat of violence, lie detectors were used as a bluff to extract information. And don't forget that Oswald who like Frazier wasn't exactly bright, also refused a Polygraph.

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And don't forget that Oswald who like Frazier wasn't exactly bright, also refused a Polygraph.

Really, did he now?

And if he did, what do you think that means?