Mr Billy Lovelady

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2019, 08:04:37 PM »
I disagree. Certainly not as unlikely as Oswald going unnoticed while standing on the entrance steps with a bunch of people who worked with him.

He sees Mr Oswald walk past him...



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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2019, 08:05:34 PM »
Right. As I said, what normal adult male remembers what clothes they were wearing on a particular day three months prior? Lovelady was wrong. He was not wearing his red and white vertical striped shirt.

So you accept that the FBI accurately reported what he told them about the shirt in February 1964?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2019, 09:03:40 PM »
He sees Mr Oswald walk past him...



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We can't tell that from viewing that Gif.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2019, 09:04:16 PM »
So you accept that the FBI accurately reported what he told them about the shirt in February 1964?

Yes I do.

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2019, 09:40:18 PM »
Thank you, Mr Scully (and Mr Crow)!  Thumb1:

I was obviously unaware of this. Is a scanned original document available anywhere?

The first doc. is available at fold3.com . It is a subscription site, height and weight are on back of the form,
my screen shot trigger finger is  barely quick enough to capture the image of the front of the 1942 draft form...
The enlistment form displays only as text on ancestry.com and was captured in a screen shot.

https://www.fold3.com/image/624687289/?xid=991

Online John Mytton

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2019, 11:58:36 PM »
We can't tell that from viewing that Gif.

Agreed, if Oswald was walking past wouldn't Lovelady be looking up at Oswald's face and tracking Oswald as he walks by?



And even as Oswald is leaving Lovelady is still not looking up at Oswald and just seems to be generally looking at the people walking by.



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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Mr Billy Lovelady
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2019, 01:05:37 AM »
Agreed, if Oswald was walking past wouldn't Lovelady be looking up at Oswald's face and tracking Oswald as he walks by?



And even as Oswald is leaving Lovelady is still not looking up at Oswald and just seems to be generally looking at the people walking by.



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Not sure what we are debating, but in the lower picture you posted Lovelady's head has turned in Oswald's general direction and was not fixed in a fashion of simply gazing "generally at people walking by". His head appears tilted slightly upward and in a way that would enable facial recognition.