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Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 06:01:05 AM »
Yeah I was there once with my family, but it was so humid, we had to depart earlier than I wanted to accommodate my mother. I got a chance to interview Groden briefly who was there hawking his merch. I have mixed feelings about him due to the reports of several researchers. But he was largely responsible for the first public showing of the Zapruder film, which was a seminal event in assassination research. I find the museum to be much more offensive and it feels like a Fox News presentation to me.

What about general impressions? One of the least likely locations for an assassin in all of Dealey Plaza, is the patsy's window. If your goal is to get framed, this would be a pretty good site to select. On the other hand, I stood behind the fence and it was an ideal shot. There was plenty of cover, shade, and a parking lot full of cars to cover the assassin's escape. There's also a strong vibration of evil in this location for the sensitive heart. I had the overwhelming feeling that Oswald was framed and felt great frustration for him. I've been sporadically obsessed with this case from the outset (I was only six in 1963) and even in junior high school read everything I could get my hands on. Over the years I've read much of the material discovered by the many private researchers dedicated to finding the truth of that horrible day. It's clear to me there were at least three shooters with multiple support goons to clean up after all hell broke loose. LBJ was the prime cause and was being prosecuted for two of the scandals plaguing him at the time. Johnson's behavior around and just after the assassination prove a criminal cover-up for starters and there's a fair amount of evidence to suggest his involvement in the planning of the Texas trip. Never forget that the French and Russian intelligence services, Jackie and Bobby Kennedy and many others believed Johnson was the mastermind, but here in this country, it's seen as outrageous to hold such views...

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 04:58:04 PM »
Yeah I was there once with my family, but it was so humid, we had to depart earlier than I wanted to accommodate my mother. I got a chance to interview Groden briefly who was there hawking his merch. I have mixed feelings about him due to the reports of several researchers. But he was largely responsible for the first public showing of the Zapruder film, which was a seminal event in assassination research. I find the museum to be much more offensive and it feels like a Fox News presentation to me.

What about general impressions? One of the least likely locations for an assassin in all of Dealey Plaza, is the patsy's window. If your goal is to get framed, this would be a pretty good site to select. On the other hand, I stood behind the fence and it was an ideal shot. There was plenty of cover, shade, and a parking lot full of cars to cover the assassin's escape. There's also a strong vibration of evil in this location for the sensitive heart. I had the overwhelming feeling that Oswald was framed and felt great frustration for him. I've been sporadically obsessed with this case from the outset (I was only six in 1963) and even in junior high school read everything I could get my hands on. Over the years I've read much of the material discovered by the many private researchers dedicated to finding the truth of that horrible day. It's clear to me there were at least three shooters with multiple support goons to clean up after all hell broke loose. LBJ was the prime cause and was being prosecuted for two of the scandals plaguing him at the time. Johnson's behavior around and just after the assassination prove a criminal cover-up for starters and there's a fair amount of evidence to suggest his involvement in the planning of the Texas trip. Never forget that the French and Russian intelligence services, Jackie and Bobby Kennedy and many others believed Johnson was the mastermind, but here in this country, it's seen as outrageous to hold such views...

Bravo Jim....  You're singing my song,  ( or I 'm singing your song ) .....Either way I'm happy that our ranks are growing.....

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 07:34:04 PM »
As many times as I have been to DP...I have never gone to the Sixth Floor Museum. You have to pay to watch the official story getting plugged into everybody's senses. 

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2019, 08:45:36 PM »
As many times as I have been to DP...I have never gone to the Sixth Floor Museum. You have to pay to watch the official story getting plugged into everybody's senses. 

The Sixth Floor reminds me of the North Korean Museum of US war atrocities....   The crew of the USS Pueblo was seized by NK and the crew was held in captivity. While in captivity they were taken to the museum of United States War atrocities from the Korean War.   They were herded through the museum and an interpreter explained what each display in the Glass display cases was about.   While the prisoners were being escorted through the museum NK citizens were touring the museum with grim faces and angrily glaring at the crew of the Pueblo....  One display case held a large rusty spike and the placard told how a US Navy Corpsman used that spike to kill North Korean babies by plunging the spike into their heads....   Another display case held a small match box with a parachute attached and the card explained how this device was used by the US Airforce to parachute germs onto the poor NK farmers....  Of course the crew of the Pueblo thought the displays were ludicrous  ( but dared not laugh or display their amusment) ....  When I read that at the time I thought that Americans would never be taken in by such childish displays....But that was before I visited the Sixth floor.....

Offline Michael O'Brian

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 12:09:15 AM »
Three times...  And I find it disgusting.   A pseudo shrine in a city whose elected officials hated John Kennedy, and whose police department did nothing to bring the murderers to justice.  I'm particularly revolted by the  Sixth Floor museum ..... A place were drones file by video exhibits and nod their heads knowingly  while absorbing the propaganda that's being presented.

Good insight into the crime scene.
I have not been , but would love to get inside of the Dal Tex to get a real view, of what the sniper could see over through the 6th floor window of the T.S.B.D out onto onto Elm Street.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2019, 04:29:03 AM »

Why does one member [so far] not wish to visit the plaza? Just curious.

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2019, 01:02:06 PM »
As many times as I have been to DP...I have never gone to the Sixth Floor Museum. You have to pay to watch the official story getting plugged into everybody's senses. 

Hi Jerry, I would imagine even if you don't want to "watch the official story getting plugged" there's still lots to learn there. It's not as if someone is going to walk in a CT and walk out a LN. The place also gives a person a sense of history. Do you really not want to see the place it actually happened?

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2019, 03:15:50 AM »


   I've been there 3 times now. And the 3 things that surprised me were the steep grade of the street where JFK was shot.  The lack of cover at the grassy knoll wooden fence, anyone would see you from behind for quite a ways....and that if you follow the zapruder film it seems like they do slow down to a crawl at the head shot, if you just film any car going by it shows the difference of not slowing down.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2019, 01:04:11 AM »
For those who haven't actually been to the site, or have not seen the easily-searched images of that corner, it's glassed-off from the public.

Seems that corner window was glassed-off from another direction once upon a time*. And boxed in.

*11.22.63
(12:30-ish)
« Last Edit: June 14, 2019, 01:22:57 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Poll:..Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2019, 01:29:01 AM »

   I've been there 3 times now. And the 3 things that surprised me were the steep grade of the street where JFK was shot.  The lack of cover at the grassy knoll wooden fence, anyone would see you from behind for quite a ways....and that if you follow the zapruder film it seems like they do slow down to a crawl at the head shot, if you just film any car going by it shows the difference of not slowing down.

I've never to Dealey Plaza. But I've seen comments from people who have, and most are amazed at how small it really is. Did you get that impression?

UPDATE: Was the size of Dealey Plaza smaller or larger than you expected?
« Last Edit: June 14, 2019, 06:05:24 AM by Bill Chapman »

 

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