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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #80 on: March 10, 2019, 06:03:24 PM »
I asked a simple, polite and straightforward question and you respond with nothing other than insults and profanity again.  Is the documentation linking Oswald to the rifle genuine or not?  If not, how many folks would be involved in the various forgeries of documents, pictures, and prints that link him to that specific rifle?  That evidence comes from a variety of sources including Marina, Klein's, the DPD, FBI, and WC investigation.  Seemingly a large number of different folks who would have to involved.

It’s a loaded question. There’s nothing that “confirms” that Oswald was sent anything.

And Marina doesn’t confirm anything about a Mannlicher-Carcano at all.
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Online Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2019, 12:50:10 AM »
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LILLIAN MOONEYHAM, Deputy District Court Clerk, 85th Court, Records Building, advised that she watched the Presidential Motorcade on November 22, 1963 from the windows of the court house. She, along with Mrs. ROSE CLARK and JEANETTE E. HOOKER, observed the Presidential Motorcade proceeding down Main Street from the window of Judge J. FRANK WILSON'S courtroom, overlooking Main Street.-----
----Mrs. MOONEYHAM estimated that it was about 4 to 5 minutes following the shots fired by the assassin that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed the figure of a man standing in a sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes. This man appeared to Mrs. MOONEYHAM to be looking out of the window, however, the man was not close up to the window but was standing slightly back from it, so that Mrs. MOONEYHAM could not make out his features. She stated that she could give no description of this individual except to say that she is sure it was a man she observed, because the figure had on trousers. ---
----Mrs. MOONEYHAM stated that following the assassination of President JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY, she observed a re-enactment of the assassination on two separate occasions on one day, and it was her impression that the Presidential Motorcade was going slower than the re-enactment motorcade. She stated that it was her estimation that the Presidential car was going approximately five or six miles per hour at the time of the assassination----
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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2019, 06:00:46 AM »


. . .

So, let's start here; knowing what physical evidence is available, how would you have set up Oswald?
 
I would need Oswald’s cooperation.

I would need him to see the importance of him appearing to be the assassin.

I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible.
I would need him to go get a handgun.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by.
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.

In addition, there would be other work to be done.

But if one can get Oswald’s cooperation in all these things, then framing him would be pretty straight forward.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2019, 09:06:22 AM »
I would need Oswald’s cooperation.

I would need him to see the importance of him appearing to be the assassin.

I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible.
I would need him to go get a handgun.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by.
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.

In addition, there would be other work to be done.

But if one can get Oswald’s cooperation in all these things, then framing him would be pretty straight forward.

None of this has anything to do with the question asked in the opening post, but I'll address it anyway.

I would need Oswald’s cooperation.

Would that be active participation or could it have been unwittingly?

I would need him to see the importance of him appearing to be the assassin.

It seems you are merely talking about active participation.....

I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible.
I would need him to go get a handgun.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by.
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.


It seems that you think all of this would have needed to be scripted beforehand... why is that?

What if, the only thing really required of Oswald was to get to a meeting with a third party at the Texas Theater and everything else was staged to implicate him?

But if one can get Oswald’s cooperation in all these things, then framing him would be pretty straight forward.

Actually, if one can get Oswald's cooperation in all that, then framing wouldn't be necessary at all.

Perhaps you should try to step away for a moment from the "Oswald did it" mindset and rethink.

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2019, 02:57:54 PM »
I would need Oswald’s cooperation.

Would that be active participation or could it have been unwittingly?

I would need him to see the importance of him appearing to be the assassin. have taken a shot at JFK.

It seems you are merely talking about active participation.....

I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible----  No problem....He was playing the role of a Communist Castro supporter who had tried to shoot JFK.
I would need him to go get a handgun. ----  No problem... His handler provided that in the theater.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.----  BIG EFing PROBLEM ....  an impossible task .  He was at the rooming house a mile away @ 1:04....  Tippit was murdered at 1:06 .....
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by----  Utterly stupid.....
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.
   If he had pulled a gun....He's have been shot down in a hail of lead... ( which is what the conspirators thought would happen because of the angry police mob that surrounded the theater after Tippit was gunned down.

It seems that you think all of this would have needed to be scripted beforehand... why is that?

What if, the only really required of Oswald was to get to a meeting with a third party ay the Texas Theater and everything else was staged to implicate him?

But if one can get Oswald’s cooperation in all these things, then framing him would be pretty straight forward.

Actually, if one can get Oswald's cooperation in all that, then framing wouldn't be necessary at all.

Perhaps you should try to step away for a moment from the "Oswald did it" mindset and rethink.

I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible----  No problem....He was playing the role of a Communist Castro supporter who had tried to shoot JFK.
I would need him to go get a handgun. ----  No problem... His handler provided that in the theater.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.----  BIG EFing PROBLEM ....  an impossible task .  He was at the rooming house a mile away @ 1:04....  Tippit was murdered at 1:06 .....
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by----  Utterly stupid.....
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.
   If he had pulled a gun....He's have been shot down in a hail of lead... ( which is what the conspirators thought would happen because of the angry police mob that surrounded the theater after Tippit was gunned down.

It seems that you think all of this would have needed to be scripted beforehand... why is that?

What if, the only really required of Oswald was to get to a meeting with a third party ay the Texas Theater and everything else was staged to implicate him?

But if one can get Oswald’s cooperation in all these things, then framing him would be pretty straight forward.

« Last Edit: March 17, 2019, 03:05:53 PM by Walt Cakebread »

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2019, 05:23:22 PM »
'' you lot''  LOL
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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #86 on: March 17, 2019, 07:39:03 PM »
"Chap-speak" [Probably has never stepped foot out of Twickenham]

I have British friends who use the term 'you lot', usually when addressing their little kids
You didn't even know the term until I schooled you

Twit
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« Reply #87 on: March 17, 2019, 07:53:04 PM »
I have British friends who use the term 'you lot', usually when addressing their little kids
You didn't even know the term until I schooled you

Twit

I seriously doubt you have friends at all, British or otherwise….

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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #88 on: March 17, 2019, 08:00:56 PM »
I have British friends who use the term 'you lot', usually when addressing their little kids
You didn't even know the term until I schooled you Twit
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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #89 on: March 17, 2019, 10:31:46 PM »
I would need him to leave the building as soon as possible.
I would need him to go get a handgun.
I would need him to go to an area where a policeman would be murdered.
I would need him to act suspiciously, to duck into a shoe store to attract attention, as a police car passed by.
Then to duck into a theater without paying to attract attention, as another police car passed by.
And to pull a gun on the first policeman to approach him in a theater.

Joe acts like all that stuff actually happened...

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