BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[John Iacoletti]

How would Mr Oswald's fingerprints on a pair of curtain rods still in the Paine home give credence to Mr Oswald's reported story that he had taken curtain rods out of the Paine home?

Good point, Alan.  It's not like finding a Minox spy camera in the garage and needing to determine if it was Oswald's or Michael Paine's.  They already knew that the curtain rods supposedly in the garage undisturbed since the assassination belonged to Ruth.

[Walt Cakebread]

The FD-302 of Bookhout's that records the curtain rods denial was a report on the morning interview of Oswald that Bookhout attended on Nov 23.  The Back Yard photos had yet to be found. Bookhout attended another interview of Oswald later on that same day and filed a separate FD-302 reporting on it.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57697#relPageId=112&tab=page

The FD-302 of Bookhout's that records the curtain rods denial was a report on the morning interview of Oswald that Bookhout attended on Nov 23.  The Back Yard photos had yet to be found.

Hey!.... By Golly..Yer right....The BY photos had not yet been found....   But Captain Fritz was questioning Lee about the BY photo....  Can you explain how that's possible?

[Alan Ford]

Good point, Alan.  It's not like finding a Minox spy camera in the garage and needing to determine if it was Oswald's or Michael Paine's.  They already knew that the curtain rods supposedly in the garage undisturbed since the assassination belonged to Ruth.

Exactly, Mr Iacoletti! 

Apropos the Minox, here's what Det. Gus Rose told the HSCA:



One can only imagine the FBI reaction had Ms Paine told them that 2 of the 4 curtain rods in her garage were missing...

Actually, one doesn't have to imagine it. It's screaming from the official record's complete silence about her curtain rods pre-March 15!

[Alan Ford]

And the importance of determining whether he handled rods in the Paine garage is?

To establish whether he was in the Paine garage some time before 22nd November?

Perhaps he had an accomplice who returned them?

My money's on his brother Robert. "Junie needs a new pair of shoes" is obviously code for "Ruthie needs an old pair of rods".

[Walt Cakebread]

My money's on his brother Robert. "Junie needs a new pair of shoes" is obviously code for "Ruthie needs an old pair of rods".

"Baby needs a new pair of shoes"...is an old crap shooters saying when shooting craps...  Lee would have known that old call for lady luck....

I've long suspected that Lee's calling attention to Junie needing new shoes was a veiled request for one of his family to check Junies shoes for some valuable piece of evidence...  In fact many years ago I asked Marina if she had kept Junies baby shoes because I believed the baby shoes had "something" important hidden in them....

Marina didn't have a clue what I was suggesting.....Or at least she didn't show any interest, and she said that she had thrown Junies baby shoes away....

Most American mothers from that era....kept their childrens baby shoes to be passed on to grandchildren later in life.....

[Tim Nickerson]

Which contents? Which personal effects? Links, please! That way we can compare the cases.

Here are a few:

https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Contents-of-Oswalds-wallet..jpg

https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Oswald?s-military-ID-said-to-have-been-stained-by-FBI-fingerprinting-fluid..jpg

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0255a.htm

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0254a.htm

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0257b.htm

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0258a.htm

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0119a.htm

Representative BOGGS. May I ask a question which is not particularly pertinent to this particular witness, but how many prints on various things like these boxes and other paraphernalia that the Commission may now have in its possession have been identified as those of Oswald?
Mr. LATONA. Six all told.
Representative BOGGS. Six altogether?
Mr. LATONA. Six.
Representative BOGGS. That includes these?
Mr. LATONA. That is right.
Representative BOGGS. How many, three?
Mr. LATONA. Three so far.
Mr. DULLES. (addressing Mr. Eisenberg) You have dealt with three so far?
Mr. EISENBERG. Three so far. We should modify this. We are only introducing this morning evidence associated with the crime, directly with the crime.Now, there were many papers submitted to the identification division. I believe you did identify----
Mr. LATONA. Personal effects, wallet, pictures, papers, and things of that kind which in themselves bear. Oswald's prints, which they should because they belong to him.

[Tim Nickerson]

The FD-302 of Bookhout's that records the curtain rods denial was a report on the morning interview of Oswald that Bookhout attended on Nov 23.  The Back Yard photos had yet to be found.

Hey!.... By Golly..Yer right....The BY photos had not yet been found....   But Captain Fritz was questioning Lee about the BY photo....  Can you explain how that's possible?

Mr. FRITZ. There is a lot of questioning in our mind about the time of this middle day questioning here. We checked it over and over and we can't be sure about the time and I don't want to go on record as not knowing whether this time is correct because it might not be.
Mr. BALL. You mean 12:35?
Mr. FRITZ. 12:35.
Mr. BALL. But you do know this conversation----
Mr. FRITZ. I do know we talked to him a number of times all along, and these questions and answers are right, but the times may be off.
Mr. BALL. You did show him this picture, a picture of Oswald with a rifle and pistol?
Mr. FRITZ. I showed him that at one of those interviews, yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And he denied that that was a picture of him.
Mr. FRITZ. That is true; yes, sir; that is right.