BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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How do any of these points relate to whether CE 142 was the bag that Frazier saw?

Oswald's unusual behavior on 21/22 November before and after the shootings is evidence as to his guilt. These are just examples of that unusual behavior. Since CE-142 is the bag that carried CE-139 the connection is obvious. Since Oswald carried no lunch bag that morning BWF could not have seen any bag other than CE-142. It is really quite simple, JohnI. If you were really just seeking the truth then this would be obvious.

Offline Alan Ford

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Since Oswald carried no lunch bag that morning BWF could not have seen any bag other than CE-142.

Such multifaceted silliness in one sentence!  :D

Let's see if we can tweak it towards the Land of Logic:

Even if BWF did not see any bag other than CE-142, that does not mean that Oswald carried no lunch bag that morning.

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Offline Alan Ford

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They had told him that Lee Oswald had told them that yes he had carried a long sack that morning and the sack contained curtain rods [...] He told them he carried his lunch in a bag

Maybe he told them both of these things!

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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How many times has this been discussed and you still don't get it.  Just because Oswald had a bag in the parking lot doesn't mean he carried a bag into the TSBD.  In fact, the only witness to him entering the TSBD said that he was not
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And you rely on Jack Dougherty as a source?

 "I recall vaguely having seen Lee Oswald, when he came to work at about 8 a.m. today.".....11/23 statement to FBI

Mr. BALL - Now, is that a very definite impression that you saw him that morning when he came to work?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, oh--it's like this--I'll try to explain it to you this way--- you see, I was sitting on the wrapping table and when he came in the door, I just caught him out of the corner of my eye---that's the reason why I said it that way...??.

This is the guy who goes from a vaguely seeing Oswald to being definite that Oswald had nothing in his hands. Very convincing witness  ::)

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Maybe he told them both of these things!

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No....I don't believe so..... I believe that Lee told them that he carried his lunch in the sack....Just as Fritz said he he did.... Because Fritz went on to elaborate on the sack ... Fritz said that he asked Lee about the size of the sack and Lee said that he didn't recall exactly....He said that it might have been bigger than necessary to contain his sandwich and fruit because "you can't always find a sack that is just the right size"

Online Martin Weidmann

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Oswald's unusual behavior on 21/22 November before and after the shootings is evidence as to his guilt. These are just examples of that unusual behavior. Since CE-142 is the bag that carried CE-139 the connection is obvious. Since Oswald carried no lunch bag that morning BWF could not have seen any bag other than CE-142. It is really quite simple, JohnI. If you were really just seeking the truth then this would be obvious.

Since CE-142 is the bag that carried CE-139

When you say it like that, you really, really, need to back up that wacky claim by some hard evidence.


Since Oswald carried no lunch bag that morning BWF could not have seen any bag other than CE-142. It is really quite simple, 

Simple or not, Frazier has denied all his life and from day 1 that CE-142 is the bag he saw Oswald carry.

But let me guess, he, who actually was there and saw the bag, was wrong and you, who wasn't there and never saw the bag, are right, correct? 

Offline Alan Ford

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Frazier has denied all his life and from day 1 that CE-142 is the bag he saw Oswald carry.

I'm not sure that's quite correct, Mr Weidmann.

Mr Frazier has denied from day 1 that CE-142 is the same length as the bag he saw Mr Oswald carry!

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