BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

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Offline Alan Ford

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Of course Alan, my scenario does not account for the original date of March 15. Then again this particular date has significance for assassinations.

Ha, never thought of that!

"Beware the Ides of March, all ye who swear/ No curtain rods Depositoried were..." Thumb1:

Offline Walt Cakebread

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I don't really understand why it's so important to Walt that the idex card went to Washington on 11/23/63 when all the evidence shows it didn't get there until the 29th.

I just don't understand his narrative...

Martin, I'm a bit disappointed that you can't see the truth....   And I don't believe it's difficult to understand.    The major problem is: most folks want to believe the authorities.     But I'm here to tell you... The authorities were the conspirators....

Detective Day was the biggest teller of non truths involved in the TSBD evidence.....  He started out investigating the case as an honest detective, but it wasn't long until he perceived what Hoover and LBJ wanted from the DPD.... 

Tom Alyea was on the scene when Detective Day started examining the evidence just as a honest detective would.....  He started looking for prints on the rifle ( you've seen the video of Day dusting the rifle for prints)   Day is on record as having found prints on the rifle ...  As he examined the rifle he knew that a rifle is normally  held by the left palm beneath the fore grip of the rifle, so that is a logical place to look for a palm print ....And Day DID find what he thought might be a palm print on the Carcano fore grip.   He knew that the wood would absorb the print rapidly so to preserve what he imagined to be a palm print he used cellophane tape to lift that smudge from the WOODEN forgrip.   There can be no intelligent dispute that the print was lifted from the WOODEN fore grip because the bayonet slot is visible on the lift.....  and that baynet slot was cut into the wooden fore grip of all model 91 / 38 Mannlicher Carcanos.

Do you understand? 
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Of course Alan, my scenario does not account for the original date of March 15. Then again this particular date has significance for assassinations.

Colin the signature of Day is NOT identical....Nor is the time release the same.....  and there are other differences.......

Offline John Iacoletti

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Yes John, I know the official tale.....The evidence speaks louder ....

Your undated evidence list tells no tale.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Your undated evidence list tells no tale.

If you can't see that the evidence list was created on 11/22/63, When you should know damned well that the evidence was turned over to Hoover's "Extra Special" Special agents ...and you know the DPD inventoried and photographed the evidence before releasing it to the FBI....If you can't understand what's being manipulated here then you really have no business debating the case.....

Online Zeon Mason

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Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. when he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz.

Thank you for posting Alyea's statement Zeon.....   But why do you deny that Alyea filmed Day lifting prints with scotch tape and placing the lifts on "little white cards" ?

the alleged  "lift" of a palm print on the barrel, WAS NOT filmed by Tom Alyea, since the rifle was NOT disassembled in that film segment of Tom Alyea recording Lt.Day doing some dusting of a FULLY ASSEMBLED rifle.

Zeon, the lift of the smudge that the mendacious Day said was taken from the metal barrel...Was actually one of the lifts that Day took from the WOODEN parts of the carcano as Alyea watched.   The CE exhibit ( CE 637) itself is PROOF that the lift was taken off the Wooden foregrip of a model 91/38 Manlicher Carcano.
The two parallel lines are the edges of the bayonet slot that is cut into the wooden fore grip of the model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano  to allow the blade to be folded back and out of the way when it wasn't being used.

You simply must refrain from believing the mendacious authorities.....

Are you suggesting that there was a conclusive and definite print from Oswalds palm or finger that was lifted from the wooden stock and was later confused somewhow as the palm print lift from the barrel, which as most of us know is NOT confirmed by either the FBI fingerprint test nor by FBI agent Drain, hence the reason Lt. Day refused to sign an affidavit stating having told Drain of the existence of ANY prints let alone a palm print lift, at the time Agent Drain took possession of the rifle.

Offline John Iacoletti

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If you can't see that the evidence list was created on 11/22/63,

Nobody can ?see? that the evidence list was created on 11/22/63, because it?s undated. Also, the magic partial palmprint did not accompany the other evidence that was turned over to the FBI that night.