BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[John Mytton]

The issue will be dead when someone can offer a rational counter-explanation for the plain-as-day evidence that 2 curtain rods were submitted for checking for Mr Oswald's prints 8 days before 2 curtain rods were 'found' in the Paine garage, and that the crime lab did not release the first 2 curtain rods until after the WC visit to the Paine garage.

The question of whether curtain rods were ever found in the Depository is one that goes to the very heart of the WC case against Mr Oswald. Warren Gullible protestations to the contrary, the official Crime Scene Search Section form presents a very large problem for those who support the official story.

Now!

So far, Messrs Nickerson, Pointing and Mytton have stepped forward, offered completely nonsensical theories (Both dates are just, yannow, wrong... Jenner suspected Ruth Paine of, well, something or other, and Oswald's prints on the rods in her garage would have indicated, well, something or other... Someone played a hoax by leaving curtain rods in the TSBD, and it's just coincidence that the numbers just happen to be 275 and 276 in each case), and then breezily declared 'Nothing to see here------matter resolved!'.

This is of course typical of the Warren Gullible modus operandi: I will fearlessly follow the evidence wherever it leads, and make sure the place we end up is always safely within the confines of the Warren Report narrative.

We all know that if dates and timestamps on an official form so clearly demolished a conspiracy claim, these gentlemen would (rightly) dismiss CT attempts to throw strained and incoherent theories at the problem as kook reality-denial. They would be sending us to the pertinent setting-the-record-straight page on Mr McAdams' Warren Gullible site.

Mr Pointing must know that his ridiculous explanation doesn't stack up, and that none of the other attempted LN explanations do either. His frustration at this, and his misdirected anger towards me, are certainly palpable. I forgive him, he's human! 

But! Some things are even more important than Mr Pointing's feelings... So the challenge remains open:

Can anyone who believes Mr Oswald did not bring curtain rods to work on the morning of 11/22/63 offer a rational counter-explanation for the plain-as-day evidence that
---------------------------2 curtain rods were submitted for checking Mr Oswald's prints 8 days before 2 curtain rods were 'found' in the Paine garage
---------------------------the crime lab did not release the first 2 curtain rods until after the WC visit to the Paine garage?

 

Alan, from the start all we have wanted to know is, besides 1 document with handwritten dates what supporting evidence does your theory have?
You know like an employee from the Depository that actually found the curtain rods?
Or another employee that heard about curtain rods being found?
Or an official search that happened just before the 15th?
Or something at least credible?

Howlett: Look Day, I'm giving you these curtain rods that I just found 3 months later in the TSBD and I want to know if Oswald touched them?
Day: Why not just throw them away?
Howlett: No, I want to exchange these with the ones that I'm going to later find at the Paine residence, because that makes sense, right?
Day: yeah whatever, just give them here and I'll date it earlier than the official search.
Howlett: Ok, do whatever you think best.

JohnM

[Tom Scully]

.....
Howlett: Look Day, I'm giving you these curtain rods that I just found 3 months later in the TSBD and I want to know if Oswald touched them?
Day: Why not just throw them away?
Howlett: No, I want to exchange these with the ones that I'm going to later find at the Paine residence, because that makes sense, right?
Day: yeah whatever, just give them here and I'll date it earlier than the official search.
Howlett: Ok, do whatever you think best.

JohnM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pitch_(Seinfeld)#Plot

.... George decides he can be a sitcom writer and comes up with the idea of it being "a show about nothing". ...
.....In the meeting, George argues with the executives about his proposed premise ("a show about nothing"; no plot, no stories). It does not go over well with them and when they show displeasure, George refuses to compromise on the idea. Jerry later blasts George for his actions....

[Denis Pointing]

Alan, from the start all we have wanted to know is, besides 1 document with handwritten dates what supporting evidence does your theory have?
You know like an employee from the Depository that actually found the curtain rods?
Or another employee that heard about curtain rods being found?
Or an official search that happened just before the 15th?
Or something at least credible?

Howlett: Look Day, I'm giving you these curtain rods that I just found 3 months later in the TSBD and I want to know if Oswald touched them?
Day: Why not just throw them away?
Howlett: No, I want to exchange these with the ones that I'm going to later find at the Paine residence, because that makes sense, right?
Day: yeah whatever, just give them here and I'll date it earlier than the official search.
Howlett: Ok, do whatever you think best.

JohnM

Hi John, the plain truth is, Alan doesn't have any supporting evidence to back up his 'theory'. All he has is an imaginary conversation between Agent Howlett and a fictional TSBD employee who, in Alan's creative mind, 'discovered' curtain rods in the TSBD 3 months after the assassination and alerted the FBI. I'll post it for you (below) in case you missed it. It's certainly very entertaining, very imaginative, J.K.Rowling would have been impressed. But supportive evidence, it certainly isn't. Here, take a look, have a laugh, enjoy;

POSTED BY ALAN FORD. April 08, 2019, 03:14:46 PM

"Thanks for alerting us to these rods. We've examined them closely and they don't have Oswald's prints. Look, here's a copy of the paperwork for you to look at. In fact, I am at liberty to tell you they didn't even come originally from the Paine home. But thank you anyway. You did the right thing in contacting us."

[John Mytton]

Hi John, the plain truth is, Alan doesn't have any supporting evidence to back up his 'theory'. All he has is an imaginary conversation between Agent Howlett and a fictional TSBD employee who, in Alan's creative mind, 'discovered' curtain rods in the TSBD 3 months after the assassination and alerted the FBI. I'll post it for you (below) in case you missed it. It's certainly very entertaining, very imaginative, J.K.Rowling would have been impressed. But supportive evidence, it certainly isn't. Here, take a look, have a laugh, enjoy;

POSTED BY ALAN FORD. April 08, 2019, 03:14:46 PM

"Thanks for alerting us to these rods. We've examined them closely and they don't have Oswald's prints. Look, here's a copy of the paperwork for you to look at. In fact, I am at liberty to tell you they didn't even come originally from the Paine home. But thank you anyway. You did the right thing in contacting us."

Thanks Denis, so the plot goes deeper and gets more convoluted at each step. It's no wonder why Alan quickly retreated from this explanation, Wow, just Wow!

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Ironically the show dedicated 180 shows to the concept of "nothing" kinda make ya think, eh?

JohnM

[Colin Crow]

Excuse me, but how are curtain rods found in the garage owned by the Paines, which is where the rods you cited were found, evidence that Oswald brought curtain rods with him to work, to the TSBD?

If he brought rods to work then they should be found/located in the TSBD. Finding curtain rods back at the garage clearly, to me, indicates he didn't bring them, i.e., these rods, to work since they are in the garage.

And for what it's worth, here is a photo of Oswald's room on the eve of the assassination. The rods appear to me to be fine:

Just came across this...........why would anyone be taking a photo of Oswald's room on the night of the 21st of November?

Were these rods printed too? After all they at least could have been handled by Oswald and returned by him to the boarding house when he returned to 1026 N Beckley after the shooting. More relevant as evidence than any that remained in the Paine garage.

[Alan Ford]

Alan, from the start all we have wanted to know is, besides 1 document with handwritten dates what supporting evidence does your theory have?
You know like an employee from the Depository that actually found the curtain rods?
Or another employee that heard about curtain rods being found?
Or an official search that happened just before the 15th?
Or something at least credible?

Howlett: Look Day, I'm giving you these curtain rods that I just found 3 months later in the TSBD and I want to know if Oswald touched them?
Day: Why not just throw them away?
Howlett: No, I want to exchange these with the ones that I'm going to later find at the Paine residence, because that makes sense, right?
Day: yeah whatever, just give them here and I'll date it earlier than the official search.
Howlett: Ok, do whatever you think best.

JohnM

 

Mr Mytton, you can keep talking around the Crime Scene Search Section form all you want, but the question is not going away!

Do you believe that both dates on this form are wrong?