BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

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Offline Richard Smith

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But you think in a scenario in which Oswald wanted to be identified as the assassin, that he would carry a bag too short to contain the rifle and put curtain rods in it? 


No I do NOT think that Lee wanted to be identified as THE ASSASSIN.....   I believe that Lee wanted to be identified as an ATTEMPTED assassin....
And the stage play script called for him to carry curtain rods in a paper sack but he was not to allow anybody to see the actual contents of the paper sack....

 Why would the rifle be more difficult to conceal in a bag than curtain rods? ... Stupid question..... The sack was made of flimsy lightweight paper, and it was only 27 inches long....  Please make a video of someone placing a three foot piece of 2" X 4"...in a 27 inch long lightweight paper sack.....and post the video.

 Why would Oswald be seen with a rifle near the parade route if it was in a bag and he carried it straight into the building hours before the motorcade?

Psssst.....There were many TSBD employees on the first floor in and near the Domino room awaiting Truly's job assignments ......If Lee had walked in carrying a huge sack it would have drawn the curiosity of some of those guys, who would have asked "Whatcha got in the bag, Lee?"  just as BWF did when he saw the sack on the back seat of his car.   Lee didn't want to raise any questions.....   And then display curtain rods.....   The script called for him to carry a long sack but keep the contents a mystery.

Wow.  Just when I thought it was not possible to lower the idiot bar.  So Oswald wants to be identified as the ATTEMPTED assassin.  That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN.  Like carry a bag long enough to contain the rifle.  How hard would that be?  In your idiotic fantasy scenario, Oswald is complicit in the conspiracy.  he is doing what he is told.  But for some reason you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that means he would have the rifle in his bag.  Or at least a bag long enough to carry it. Very humorous.  Protecting Oswald at all costs while at the same time claiming he was working in the conspiracy.

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

Offline Alan Ford

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How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

Which TSBD employees were on the lookout for an assassin, Mr Smith?  ???

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Wow.  Just when I thought it was not possible to lower the idiot bar.  So Oswald wants to be identified as the ATTEMPTED assassin.  That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN.  Like carry a bag long enough to contain the rifle.  How hard would that be?  In your idiotic fantasy scenario, Oswald is complicit in the conspiracy.  he is doing what he is told.  But for some reason you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that means he would have the rifle in his bag.  Or at least a bag long enough to carry it. Very humorous.  Protecting Oswald at all costs while at the same time claiming he was working in the conspiracy.

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN

Well not exactly...  An attempt misses the victim....Like General Walker....  And since the victim was not hit ....Only ONE person can know the INTENT of the shot.
An ATTEMPT can be a feigned .....Why do I have to explain this simple idea to you?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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If-----------e.g.!-----------Mr J Ruby's prints were found on the same toothbrush as Mr Oswald's prints, you don't think that might be indicative of something interesting? 
Cart before horse, Mr Nickerson! Until they do the fingerprint test, they can't know for sure whether the toothbrush is someone else's. See? Logical!

If Ruby's prints were found on the two curtain rods might that not be indicative of something interesting?   ???


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No, that would not be comparable.

Why not? Maybe Lee,or Harvey, or Harold,or whichever one of the three, messed up and left those curtain rods in the garage when he was supposed to have them planted at the TSBD. 
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Wow.  Just when I thought it was not possible to lower the idiot bar.  So Oswald wants to be identified as the ATTEMPTED assassin.  That means he has to do the very same things as the ASSASSIN.  Like carry a bag long enough to contain the rifle.  How hard would that be?  In your idiotic fantasy scenario, Oswald is complicit in the conspiracy.  he is doing what he is told.  But for some reason you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that means he would have the rifle in his bag.  Or at least a bag long enough to carry it. Very humorous.  Protecting Oswald at all costs while at the same time claiming he was working in the conspiracy.

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

How did your real assassin get the rifle into the building with all these TSBD employees on the lookout for an assassin?

I believe if you'll check the record , you'll find that Lee told the interrogators....." I saw this rifle and two other rifles in Mr Truly's office the day before yesterday , which was Wednesday November 20th. Mr Truly and some other men were examining the guns" ( paraphrased) What FBI agent James Hosty actually wrote was....."Day before yesterday,  Mr Truly had rifle and two others, first floor outside office" 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Why the hell would Oswald be sharing his toothbrush? You are really reaching with that one. Why would they be interested in checking someone else's toothbrush for prints? One can just as easily come up with similar silly reasoning for checking the curtain rods. The curtain rods in the garage were not placed there by the Paines. They were there when they moved in. Maybe someone placed them there years before in preparation for the Big Event.  :D

First off....The toothbrush has to be verified as belonging to Oswald....   If prints were found on the tooth brush that were NOT Lee Oswald's....It just might indicate that the person living there was not in fact Lee Oswald.....    Perhaps an impersonator....

Offline Tim Nickerson

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First off....The toothbrush has to be verified as belonging to Oswald....   If prints were found on the tooth brush that were NOT Lee Oswald's....It just might indicate that the person living there was not in fact Lee Oswald.....    Perhaps an impersonator....

And maybe they would find the same prints on the curtain rods? Harvey, Lee, or Harold?  ::)