BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[John Iacoletti]

It's incredibly arrogant to cast such a huge assumption (didn't think you liked 'assumptions') you don't know me, you don't know what I do or do not "assume", you shouldn't 'assume' all LNs naively assume anything.

Fair point, Denis. I should have said many LN-ers.

[Walt Cakebread]

Exactly. If he brought curtain rods into the building that morning, then he will have established very soon after the assassination that they were missing. 2 + 2 = 4. I'm outta here.

And bear in mind: he knows who set him up----------it was the person who tricked him into bringing curtain rods to work that morning. This (so he thinks) will all come out at trial.

 

If it's the "person who tricked him into bringing curtain rods to work that morning..... Then he's the culprit.    Because He knew that the script called for him to go to Irving to see his family one last time before embarking on his sojourn ( mission) to Cuba....  He knew the script called for him to carry something that could later be identified as a gun in a paper sack.....   Thus he carried the curtain rods and his lunch in the long ( 27 inches) FLIMSY PAPER sack......

He wanted BWF to see the sack but he didn't want all of the employees gathered on the first floor waiting to start work to see that long paper sack......Thus he slipped the paper sack between the boards of the loading dock before entering the TSBD.   

It's obvious that others knew what the script for the stage play called for because even before BWF reported that Lee was carrying a long paper sack the police were telling the reporters that they believed that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssssswald (Booooo! Hissss!) had smuggled the gun into the building in a paper sack....

[Richard Smith]

If it's the "person who tricked him into bringing curtain rods to work that morning..... Then he's the culprit.    Because He knew that the script called for him to go to Irving to see his family one last time before embarking on his sojourn ( mission) to Cuba....  He knew the script called for him to carry something that could later be identified as a gun in a paper sack.....   Thus he carried the curtain rods and his lunch in the long ( 27 inches) FLIMSY PAPER sack......

He wanted BWF to see the sack but he didn't want all of the employees gathered on the first floor waiting to start work to see that long paper sack......Thus he slipped the paper sack between the boards of the loading dock before entering the TSBD.   

It's obvious that others knew what the script for the stage play called for because even before BWF reported that Lee was carrying a long paper sack the police were telling the reporters that they believed that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssssswald (Booooo! Hissss!) had smuggled the gun into the building in a paper sack....

What a yarn.  If Oswald was complicit in his own frame up as you suggest, then why didn't he just carry the rifle in his bag?  Why this bizarre alternative scenario?  Do you really believe the plan in that context would be for Oswald to carry curtain rods in a bag too short to contain the rifle if your fantasy conspirators including Oswald wanted him to be identified as the assassin?  And then the authorities find and suppress his curtain rods in an effort to frame him but five months later on their own initiative suddenly bring them to light to check them for his prints!  Wow.  If you are going to write a fictional account, at least have it make some narrative sense.

[Walt Cakebread]

What a yarn.  If Oswald was complicit in his own frame up as you suggest, then why didn't he just carry the rifle in his bag?  Why this bizarre alternative scenario?  Do you really believe the plan in that context would be for Oswald to carry curtain rods in a bag too short to contain the rifle if your fantasy conspirators including Oswald wanted him to be identified as the assassin?  And then the authorities find and suppress his curtain rods in an effort to frame him but five months later on their own initiative suddenly bring them to light to check them for his prints!  Wow.  If you are going to write a fictional account, at least have it make some narrative sense.

If Oswald was complicit in his own frame up as you suggest, then why didn't he just carry the rifle in his bag?

HUH??....  WHY ? do you assume that the rifle was available in the garage to be carried anywhere that morning.....    BUT if it had been, the rifle would have been much more difficult to conceal, than a couple of curtain rods.    And even though Lee was playing the role that had been cast for him.....He was smart enough to avoid being seen with a rifle near the Parade route that morning.....

He knew the play called for him to be seen as a Castro supporter who had taken a shot at JFK....   Just as that hoax was used at Walker's house back in April...

[Tim Nickerson]

Because different items may offer different grounds for testing. Duh!

You still haven't offered a single cogent reason why 2 curtain rods found in the Paine garage would be tested for Mr Oswald's prints. But I guess 'Don't know, don't care' was your way of giving a 'straightforward' answer!

And you must have missed this part of my response!:

"[to] determine whether they might bear prints belonging to known subversives or possible confederates of Mr Oswald"

Imagine---------for example-----------the prints of Mr J Ruby or Officer J. D. Tippit had been found on the automatic ball-point pen!

Or on One bar pink "Lux" soap or on the plastic box containing tweezers and two pieces of cotton, or on one tube of "Colgate" dental cream, partially empty, or on two large paper clips?

Or on 2 curtain rods found in the Paine garage?

I repeat my question with specific reference to the list of items you have given us:

Were any of these items submitted for fingerprint testing 8 days before being found?

What is the point of your question? It's a rather stupid one.

[John Iacoletti]

HUH??....  WHY ? do you assume that the rifle was available in the garage to be carried anywhere that morning.....

Apparently because Marina saw a part of a wooden stock that she took to be a rifle in a rolled up and tied blanket 6 weeks earlier.

[Tim Nickerson]

But, in answering that question, you can't set aside the question of whether the items belonged to Oswald or not. Some of the testing from items taken from the Paine home, for instance, may have been done to ascertain whether or not they might not in fact have belonged to one of the Paines.

LOL! Were the Paines ever even fingerprinted? Wouldn't it have been easier to just ask them? And what would be so important about knowing who those items belonged to?