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The assassin's lunch

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Bill Brown:

--- Quote from: Colin Crow on February 04, 2018, 03:06:01 AM ---Factually incorrect.....

Mr. BALL. I will. I am going to introduce them all. Let's go back to the diagram, which is 483. Could you mark on this diagram the window that is shown in this picture 484 that is, the place where you were sitting and eating your lunch?
Mr. WILLIAMS. That would be facing Elm Street. I would say right around in this.
Mr. BALL. In other words, you are marking here something between--some area between the third and the fourth window.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You are not able to tell exactly?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No; I am not.
Mr. BALL. The witness has drawn a red rectangle to show the approximate area which runs from about the center. of the second row of windows from the southeast corner over to about the fourth pane of windows.
Mr. WILLIAMS. I would say about right in here, third or fourth.
Mr. BALL. Third or fourth?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Now, you have made two marks, so I will identify the last mark. Between the third and fourth, is that right?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. We will mark the rectangle, and we will mark it "W-3" and "W-4" the end of the lines.



Clearly BRW claimed to have eaten some 2-3 feet sets of windows west of the SN. Not one set of windows to the west of the SN.

Be careful or some unscrupulous member might accuse you of being nasty and using manipulative dirty tricks (but I doubt it).

I'll just put it down to human error.

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How does any of that show my statement to be in error?

Colin Crow:

--- Quote from: Bill Brown on February 03, 2018, 05:26:11 AM ---When the totality of the testimony is weighed, the chicken bones were found on top of a box located one set of windows to the west of the sniper's nest window and the lunch sack was found on the floor one set of windows to the west of the sniper's nest... exactly where Bonnie Ray Williams stated that he ate his lunch.

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Well for a start....how about this.

Mr. BALL. In other words, you are marking here something between--some area between the third and the fourth window.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You are not able to tell exactly?
Mr. WILLIAMS. No; I am not.

Williams never gave an exact position.

Gary Craig:

--- Quote from: Bill Brown on February 03, 2018, 05:26:11 AM ---When the totality of the testimony is weighed, the chicken bones were found on top of a box located one set of windows to the west of the sniper's nest window and the lunch sack was found on the floor one set of windows to the west of the sniper's nest... exactly where Bonnie Ray Williams stated that he ate his lunch.

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http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

Colin Crow:
Mr. BELIN. Did you see anything else with the pop bottle when you were in that area?
Mr. DAY. There was a brown-paper sack, like a lunch sack.
Mr. BELIN. About how large?
Mr. DAY. It does not show in the picture.
Mr. BELIN. Where would the sack have been located?
Mr. DAY. Sir?
Mr. BELIN. Where would that sack have been located, if you know?
Mr. DAY. I don't remember.
Mr. BELIN. Would this have been at the third pair of windows counting from the east; when you meant the third aisle, did you mean the third set of windows also?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.


Mr. McCLOY. On the crime scene, that is, on the sixth floor, did you notice any chicken bones or chicken remnants of a chicken sandwich or lunch or the whereabouts, if you did see them?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; there was a sack of some chicken bones and a bottle brought into the identification bureau. I think I still have that sack and bottle down there. The chicken bones, I finally threw them away that laid around there. In my talking to the men who were working on that floor, November 25, they stated, one of them stated, he had eaten lunch over there.

In his testimony Day is very careful not to say "I saw" or "I noticed" for certain items. Here when asked did he see the chicken lunch note how he replies with the fact that they were brought into the lab. That is not a direct answer to the question. When asked specifically where the bag was he could not remember. This indicates he did not see it that afternoon or if he did did not pay it much attention.

He relates how he talked to the employees on th 25th and discovered one of them claimed the lunch as his.....presumably BRW. If Day was unsure of the exact location of the lunch is this the reason BRW was also uncertain about where the bag was found? Without Day's questioning how would BRW know that the lunch was found other than in the SN where he ate it?

Colin Crow:
No wonder Bonnie Ray was reluctant to mention his lunch on the sixth floor SN in his initial statement. Seems he was happily eating his lunch in the SN, suddenly lost his appetite and departed after 12.27 or so. So unlucky for JFK.

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