Firearms experts who say; ?I can't do it so it can't be done?, cannot be trusted

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Offline Ross Lidell

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Then you have a bizarre concept of what constitutes "probable".

To a believer in the WC myth, anything is possible.  Lucky shots, magic bullets, moving back wounds, disappearing bags, disappearing initials, reappearing palmprints, "mistaken" witnesses.  Whatever it takes.

There's a lot of misinformation in those statements, John.

Looking at your new avatar, I'm assuming you will say: "The devil made me do it".

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Why didn't Governor Ventura make another attempt to achieve the shooting sequence faster? Ventura "probably" knew that other shooters have fired a sequence of shots with a Carcano rifle much faster.
Still ignored are the recorded statements of the US Army marksmen who testified that the weapon that was found... was in summary --a seriously unreliable piece of crap.  Therefor this thread should not even be------------------
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taken with a grain of salt.
  That would be too much salt. Upon what do you base Oswald's supposed 'skill' as a competent shooter?

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Still ignored are the recorded statements of the US Army marksmen who testified that the weapon that was found... was in summary --a seriously unreliable piece of crap.  Therefor this thread should not even be------------------  That would be too much salt. Upon what do you base Oswald's supposed 'skill' as a competent shooter?

So the US Army marksman offered an "opinion" that the rifle (C2766) was "a seriously unreliable piece of crap". That opinion would be more credible if it was accompanied by a detailed explanation. That it was not, renders it of no merit.

Basis of Oswald's skill as a competent shooter: Training and assessment of marksmanship ability while in the US Marine Corp. Oswald attained the status of "Sharpshooter".

Prove to me that it is not possible for an unskilled, incompetent shooter to achieve a fluke hit (twice) on a moving target at close range?

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So the US Army marksman offered an "opinion" that the rifle (C2766) was "a seriously unreliable piece of crap". That opinion would be more credible if it was accompanied by a detailed explanation. That it was not, renders it of no merit.
Basis of Oswald's skill as a competent shooter: Training and assessment of marksmanship ability while in the US Marine Corp. Oswald attained the status of "Sharpshooter".
Prove to me that it is not possible for an unskilled, incompetent shooter to achieve a fluke hit (twice) on a moving target at close range?
So an opinion validating a lone assassin is merited..but one that doesn't is not? OK :-\  A typical ODIA viewpoint.
It was four years before the assassination that the sharpshooter qualification was attained and it was made at a fixed target with a vastly superior weapon. I'm supposed to prove that someone's little sister could have pulled off that event? That is making it sound like a shooting gallery at some carnival.
 

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So an opinion validating a lone assassin is merited..but one that doesn't is not? OK :-\  A typical ODIA viewpoint.
It was four years before the assassination that the sharpshooter qualification was attained and it was made at a fixed target with a vastly superior weapon. I'm supposed to prove that someone's little sister could have pulled off that event? That is making it sound like a shooting gallery at some carnival.

Jerry,

Thanks for using the acronym ODIA. I initiated that on the earlier iteration of this forum.

You can deride Oswald's shooting skills as much as you like. It does not prove that he did not fire the shots attributed to him by the Warren Commission (and the HSCA).

This is a serious question Jerry.
Would you ride down Elm Street in Dealey Plaza--in a 1961 Lincoln Continental Convertible limousine sitting in the passenger's side rear seat--with me up on the 6th floor SE Corner TSBD shooting at you with a Carcano rifle?


Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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An incorrect identification of a rifle (the 6th floor TSBD  assassination weapon) without examining it is not evidence of a second rifle. Seymour Weitzman is on the record as saying: "I made a mistake but it was an honest mistake". 

There is no evidence (physical or circumstantial) of a second weapon in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. If you think there is: Name the individual who removed a Mauser rifle from the TSBD; date and time as well.
Thanks for the answer I would only expect to get from a group of gossiping teenage girls.
If you want to play games at least try to be good at it.
Ross, I didn't say Mauser until they said, Mauser.  That is where I am.
What was your first and only Lawbook, Ross? "Simon Says"

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Thanks for the answer I would only expect to get from a group of gossiping teenage girls.
If you want to play games at least try to be good at it.
Ross, I didn't say Mauser until they said, Mauser.  That is where I am.
What was your first and only Lawbook, Ross? "Simon Says"

What you expect, Pete, might be influenced by your personality, mindset and other characteristics unique to you.
That would not stand up in court.

Ross, I didn't say Mauser until they said, Mauser.  That is where I am.

What is this meant to convey?