How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 12:35:50 AM »
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10098&relPageId=16&search=Marina_and%20technical
That declassified document is a joke. J E Hoover already had Marina's phones tapped and she was under surveillance anyway. Actually...she knew it too.
 

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 12:51:49 AM »
The standard childish response from Walt. 80 years old and getting worse. Your decline in cognitive response is picking up speed and being replaced more and more by your fanatical fabrications.
You mean like what is happening to the retired Arkansas SP Investigator
character I have a high opinion of in this season?s HBO series, True Detectives?
... and Walt, thanks for setting me straight on when the FBI
began the technical surveillance on Marina. All this time I thought
Rankin and Hoover were just jealous of Marina being a candidate
for a Presidential Medal for single handedly keeping former VP Nixon
out of harm?s way during an alleged Nixon visit to Dallas.
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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 12:58:14 AM »
Guys...it's way simpler than you think. Just get Marina to testify. Hold her to the point. It's really very simple. And....she really has nothing to lose!

And if she repeats what she has always said what then? She gets to be called a l-i-a-r all over again? Why would she agree to that?

Your OP sounds like you want authorities to force a confession out of her. Do you think that's a way forward?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 09:30:31 PM »
Even if the BYPs are authentic, what exactly do they prove?  That Oswald once held a rifle that may or may not be the same rifle that may or may not have fired the shot that killed Kennedy?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2019, 09:44:47 PM »
Even if the BYPs are authentic, what exactly do they prove?  That Oswald once held a rifle that may or may not be the same rifle that may or may not have fired the shot that killed Kennedy?

The BY photos prove that there was a naive nut creating photos.....Photos like a carnival photo that are outrageously fake...  Fake in the sense that they attempt to deceive the viewer into believing something that isn't true.
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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2019, 10:47:00 PM »
There is NO debate regarding the JFK assassination as that was decided long ago. It was a conspiracy.

The only thing the LNers "debate" are suppositions, false assertions, biased opinions, character assassination and personal attacks.

There is NO real debate of the evidence as there is NONE that supports the WC's claims.

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: How I think the JFK assassination debate can be settled.
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2019, 08:22:49 AM »
There is NO debate regarding the JFK assassination as that was decided long ago. It was a conspiracy.

The only thing the LNers "debate" are suppositions, false assertions, biased opinions, character assassination and personal attacks.

There is NO real debate of the evidence as there is NONE that supports the WC's claims.

Why is nearly everyone, it seems, for 55 years, including the author of this thread, so FOS?

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From Jim Hargrove's fan website:
And it was Roscoe who could easily have added a backyard photo or film negatives to the evidence collected by the Dallas Police on the afternoon of November 22. And Roscoe may have been the unknown police officer who gave the photo to Life Magazine. After Roscoe's death, his wife found another backyard photo among his possessions. And in 1991 the Dallas Police found additional backyard photos in their files. These photos are another "smoking gun" and were created for the purpose of placing a rifle in Oswald's hands. They are further proof that Oswald was being set up as the "patsy" prior to the assassination.

Finally, what about the Imperial Reflex camera that was allegedly used by Marina to take the backyard photos? It was not found among Oswald's possessions at his rooming house, nor was it found at Ruth Paine's house, nor was it identified by Marina as belonging to Oswald when she was first shown the camera. In fact, Marina described a very different camera that she said was used by her to take the backyard photos. The Imperial Reflex camera first appeared 3 months after the assassination-on February 14, 1964 when Robert Oswald gave it to the FBI. And where did Robert get the camera? From Ruth Paine, who somehow was able to provide many items of evidence used to frame/incriminate Oswald in the months following the assassination, long after the police had thoroughly searched her home and garage....
Versus: Jim Marrs, author of the book titled, "Crossfire".:  (from google books)


Versus:
http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/pdf/WH21_Shaneyfelt_Ex_10.pdf

Versus:
Marina's original business manager, Jim Martin, later recalled that he sold a BYP print, sourced directly from Marina, to
Life Magazine, on Marina's behalf. Martin is backed up by an FBI communication rational readers will likely understand is obscure as
a result of FBI attempt to protect sources and methods! (Hint...this FBI document suppoirts the much later recollection by Jim Martin,
nearly word for word!)


In what I predict will be a futile attempt by me to "call off the dogs," readers are now informed that the above memo is
known to the community, unlike the obscure, Jim Martin (pre-internet era, but not newsgroup era) interview backing up the FBI document.....

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Reference Material Section Three:

2,031 links to significant documents
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  (1964 02/25)   FBI Memorandum: C. D. DeLoach to Mr. Mohr (jfk.hood.edu)
                          Mrs. Bucknell told Wick today that "Life" magazine purchased the
                          photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald shown with a rifle and a revolver
                          (which appears on "Life" cover of 2-21-64) from Mrs. Marina Oswald

........

Nearly daily, for years, on multiple forums, I post verifiable details to attempt to make the point to those reaching conclusions
or repeatedly emphasizing suspicions or theories, you lack awareness of details you are unfamiliar with.

The latest frenzy involves the posting, over and over, of "notes" attributed to Jim Hosty, and others to Will Fritz,
despite Hosty repeatedly testitifying he had thrown his relevant notes into the trash before the formation of the WC,
and both Fritz and Harry Holmes testifying (Holmes's denial was in an interview with author Sneed) that neither man
took notes, as intentional policy. Those repeatedly posting images of these purported notes claim the contents are
game changers impeaching a rather voluminous, contrary testimonial record consistently absent anyone claiming to have
witnessed Oswald outside the TSBD before 12:30 pm, and in the testimonies of Shelley and Frazier, specific denials of any
further observation of Oswald, at all, after noon, anywhere near the  TSBD.

Everyone demonstrably FOS seems adament they are performing some imagined "public service" as they eagerly flaunt their
symptoms, instead of concealing them.  Similarly to every Trump supporter, they assert they know who to believe.

Maybe I am jealous of them because compared to them and their self professed "discernment" I seem to have been
shortchanged by my maker, blessed with only the lesser ability to discern who is FOS. I am constantly adding names to
the lists I keep of such internet forum posters, book authors, movie makers, and a  prominent, now deceased, former NODA!
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