Oswald's Rifle Capability

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2019, 01:48:05 AM »
Oh...she 'heard it'--Did Oswald name his rifle? Did he ever chant the Marine chant 'This is my rifle this is my gun this is for shooting this is for fun'? :P

Yes, he did ... And he thought Marina couldn't understand what he was chanting in English..... Until she  hit him on the head with a Russian Language dictionary...

Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2019, 03:03:38 AM »
she 'heard it'--
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/oswald_m1.htm
And then 15 years later... she didn't----
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Mr. McDONALD. Can you recall overhearing the sound of Lee handling the rifle? In other words, do you recall when he would be sitting on the porch, do you recall loud sounds of what would be moving the bolt or the action on the rifle?
Mrs. PORTER. I do not recall right now.
Mr. McDONALD. If you think about it for a minute, do you recall that kind of sound, the sound of metal on metal, sort of a clacking sound?
Mrs. PORTER. Not that I remember it; no.
Mr. McDONALD. Did you ever see him move the action of the rifle?
Mrs. PORTER. I told you I did not pay attention to what he was doing that much, to give you the descriptions, if he changed the positions or was it any sounds, because I wasn't listening for it.
Mr. McDONALD. Do you know or do you remember any time when he would handle the rifle when it seemed like he would be shooting at something, an imaginary object?
Mrs. PORTER. No, I cannot.
Mr. McDONALD. Pulling the trigger?
Mrs. PORTER. No, I cannot tell you that.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/hscamar1.htm

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2019, 06:09:04 AM »
How is that a "fact"?

Oswald's Rifle Practice Outside the Marines
Cite: NARA

During one of his leaves from the Marines, Oswald hunted with his brother Robert, using a .22 caliber bolt-action rifle belonging either to Robert or Robert's in-laws.785 After he left the Marines and before departing for Russia, Oswald, his brother, and a third companion went hunting for squirrels and rabbits.786 On that occasion Oswald again used a bolt-action .22 caliber rifle; and according to Robert, Lee Oswald exhibited an average amount of proficiency with that weapon.787 While in Russia, Oswald obtained a hunting license, joined a hunting club and went hunting about six times, as discussed more fully in chapter VI.788 Soon after Oswald returned from the Soviet Union he again went hunting with his brother, Robert, and used a borrowed .22 caliber bolt-action rifle.789 After Oswald purchased the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, he told his wife that he practiced with it.790 Marina Oswald testified that on one occasion she saw him take the rifle, concealed in a raincoat, from the house on Neely Street. Oswald told her he was going to practice with it. 791 According to George De Mohrenschildt, Oswald said that he went target shooting with that rifle.792

Marina Oswald testified that in New Orleans in May of 1963, she observed Oswald sitting with the rifle on their screened porch at night, sighting with the telescopic lens and operating the bolt.798 Examination of the cartridge cases found on the sixth floor of the Depository
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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2019, 06:24:21 AM »
By her diligent and straight-forward honesty with everything she said

Yet you believe her HCSA testimony it seems. How convenient.

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2019, 07:04:53 AM »
Im going on the fact that the only way they could align the scope for elevation was to unsrew the mount itself and insert a shim and then rescrew the mount at a lsightly different angle.

IDK if you can physically damage a scope to only cause elevation mis alignment so bad that it requires adding a shim, but not cause any damage to horizontal alignment and do this in the 30 sec after the shooting, while also wiping prints off with a shirt or rag, and also while running with rifle acroos the floor at 10 ft per sec

If the scope became somehow misaligned before the shooting started, it doesn't make sense that any attempt would be made to use it. Some suggest that he found a way to use the iron sights.

And I don't see how anyone would know that Oswald would have been running with the rifle. Or even needed to. The time trials indicate a time of between 75-90 seconds, IMS. Brennan testified that the shooter paused after the last shot and didn't seem to be hurried.
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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2019, 09:20:45 AM »
All of this speculation about Oswald's rifle capability is a red herring.  All of the evidence found indicated that it was Oswald alone who shot and killed JFK. Regardless of how he scored in the firing test while in the USMC, how many times Oswald worked the bolt to  familiarize himself with the weapon, how many times he managed to practice with the rifle while in New Orleans, whether you believe Marina, the accuracy of the MC with and without using the scope (nobody knows if Oswald actually used the scope), the actual timeline of the sequence of shots if the first shot missed could be as long as over 8 seconds, the evidence strongly supports the fact that it was Oswald who was the SN shooter. NO OTHER SUSPECT HAS BEEN FOUND WHO COULD HAVE BEEN THE SHOOTER! Oswald pulled the trigger three times, missed the first shot, scored a hit on JFK that went through his neck, out his throat, entered JBC as the 6.5 mm WC copper jacketed bullet was beginning to yaw at approx. Z224, went out JBC's chest, struck his right wrist, and made a small puncture wound in his left thigh. That bullet, CE-399, was recovered at Parkland Hospital and accounts for two (the other being CE-567 and CE-569) of the three bullets fired. It's that freaking fu****g simple, yet you dumb a** commie loving, wife beating, turncoat Oswald defenders just refuse to face the facts just as the dumb a** Flat Earth believers refuse to believe in what is the most obvious of facts. 

In order to support the myriad of theories to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt you fail each and every time in providing an alternate theory backed by reasonable evidence to support the theory that Oswald was not the shooter. Every time some half a***d unreasonable point is brought out by you guys it's countered by reasonable, effective, and verifiable evidence that completely shuts the door to further inquiry but you still persist because your life revolves around trying proving the unprovable by inventing unsupportable scenarios. It's your life and you can live it as you choose but you will never be at peace with yourselves because you're emotionally glued to a lost cause.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2019, 04:21:08 PM »
All of this speculation about Oswald's rifle capability is a red herring.
   On and on with the official hymn....seems quite upset. Try Prozac for that anxiety.