When did Brennan take up position?

[Walt Cakebread]

Alan, my questions were to anyone not just Walt and general in nature regarding the number if liars required. Do not trust the WC testimonies too much......these were the result of the Ball/Belin trip to Dallas just before the testimonies were taken. If possible use material closer to the original event. Williams admitted the 6th floor adventure by day 2. Even then he tried to make the timing of it much earlier (and shorter). This would eventually fall apart and Jarman and Norman could no longer attempt to cover for him by saying he went up with them.

Colin....It's very obvious that the conspirators had selected the sixth floor as the site that they were going to use to set up the stage to frame Lee Oswald....( the spent shells were planted there and a unusual rifle with a serial number that could be traced to a rifle that Lee Oswald had ordered was found there on the sixth floor....)

Since I believe that is obvious....They most certainly would have taken precaution to make sure that nobody was on the sixth floor who could refute their scenario.

IOW....They would have posted a guard to keep any employee from entering the sixth floor during the period between 12:15 and 12:30....  I believe that guard was Jack Dougherty ..... 

Dougherty was so afraid of being exposed that he couldn't think rationally when he testified before the cover up commission..... Dougherty's testimony is rambling incoherent gibberish.....

I believe he was supposed to isolate the sixth floor and keep anybody from going to the sixth floor, by taking the east elevator to the sixth floor and leaving it there ( the east elevator required an operator on board ) He was then supposed to block the stairs at the fifth floor by placing boxes of books in front of the stairway door so nobody could go beyond the fifth floor ( He may have sat down on the boxes that blocked the stairway door )   .......  Dougherty didn't know that Bonnie Ray Williams had gone to the sixth floor prior to 12:15 and was silently sitting and eating lunch at the SE corner of the sixth floor.....  So Dougherty assumed that there was nobody on the sixth floor when he left the elevator there.    Then at about 12:25 he heard Jarman and Norman bring the west elevator up to the fifth floor which was the top floor for the west elevator.....  and he saw them taking position behind the fifth floor windows to watch the parade.    Perhaps he went to the sixth floor when he heard the west elevator rising, and found Bonnie Ray Williams there....  and told him to get off the sixth floor or he would be fired .

The above scenario is a possible scenario to try to arrive at solutions to many unanswered questions...The prime question is:...   Would the conspirators have left the sixth floor unguarded  ??

     

 

[Jerry Freeman]

 
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Oswald was a liar. Liars lie. He lied about lots of "trivial" things. He did not change his shirt.  The shirt that he was seen wearing on the bus by Mrs. Bledsoe is the same shirt he had on when arrested. The bus transfer was still in the pocket of the shirt.

Blah blah blah that song again...that [long discredited] song will never end.

Brennan said that he saw the man who was wearing the light colored clothing move around from window to window...

There it is. He did describe that. So if Oswald was wearing the arrest shirt, why does Brennan not describe that?


 

[Walt Cakebread]

 Blah blah blah that song again...that [long discredited] song will never end.There it is. He did describe that. So if Oswald was wearing the arrest shirt, why does Brennan not describe that?

Well I'd say the man who was wearing the light colored clothing was not Lee Oswald.....  And to substantiate that, Lee said that he was on the first floor at that time....

[John Iacoletti]

There were reports of cigarette butts on the floor but that bit of information was swept under the rug, because Lee Oswald didn't smoke.

This is Walt Fabrication #54.  What reports?

[John Iacoletti]

I'm not being antagonistic or arguing...but .... HOW do you know that "Williams was on the 6th floor at this time as Jarman and Norman were on their way to the fifth floor."   

Mr. BALL. Why did you stop on the fifth floor?
Mr. WILLIAMS. To see if there was anyone there.
Mr. BALL. Did you know there was anyone there before you started down?
Mr. WILLIAMS. Well, I thought I heard somebody walking, the windows moving or something. I said maybe someone is down there, I said to myself. And I just went on down.
Mr. BALL. Did you find anybody there?
Mr. WILLIAMS. As I remember, when I was walking up, I think Harold Norman and James Jarman as I remember, they was down facing the Elm Street on the fifth floor, as I remember.

So JJ and HN were already there on the fifth floor when BRW left the sixth floor.