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How long does it take to alter hundreds of frames of film?
Chris Davidson:
The first alteration is the removal of the Elm St turn.
The frame rate of Z's camera was not known until the first week in December (Joe Webb-FBI)
A 16mm film(frame rate 24fps) on a 16mm projector shown at 24fps.
24fps x 20.25 seconds = 486 frames
133 + 353 = 486
Excerpts from Rather's video description.
No reference made to the initial motorcycle cop footage.
Krulvyn Skaarg:
Supporters of Z film authenticity just won't address matters like Rather's description of a film that differs significantly from the established version. An hour of studying a 20m clip and you get something WRONG like 'back and to the left' after the fatal head shot. I respectfully ask you LNers to step up and explain this glaring discrepancy.
Richard Smith:
Another example of CTers entertaining multiple and sometimes mutually exclusive realities. In some cases, they rely upon the Z-film as proof of a conspiracy (e.g. "back and to the the left"). In others, that the film is faked or altered to avoid showing evidence of a conspiracy. The Alamo defense of all CTer claims ultimately boils down to suggesting that all evidence is faked or the product of intentional lies. The Catch-22: Any evidence of Oswald's guilt is suspect and dismissed for that reason alone.
Ray Mitcham:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on January 08, 2018, 04:25:49 PM ---Another example of CTers entertaining multiple and sometimes mutually exclusive realities. In some cases, they rely upon the Z-film as proof of a conspiracy (e.g. "back and to the the left"). In others, that the film is faked or altered to avoid showing evidence of a conspiracy. The Alamo defense of all CTer claims ultimately boils down to suggesting that all evidence is faked or the product of intentional lies. The Catch-22: Any evidence of Oswald's guilt is suspect and dismissed for that reason alone.
--- End quote ---
Just tell us why the film we see is different to the one Rather saw. (And don't say "prove they are different" because Rather saw the limo turn the corner into Elm Street,) or is he just mistaken, lying or crazy?
Chris Davidson:
The only car close enough to the limo to fulfill Rather's description.
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