Did Poe Mark The Shells?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2019, 10:58:27 PM »
That isn't how it works though. But the fact is that the shells in evidence are the shells that were collected at the scene.

Believing that on faith and demonstrating that it's actually true are two different things.

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It has been established beyond any reasonable doubt. Those who refuse to accept that fact are simply not reasonable people and it's pointless to try to reason with them.

Otherwise known as proof by repeated assertion of the claim.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2019, 11:01:30 PM »
When you claim it with so much certainty, I am beginning to think that I might have missed something. Please explain how it has been established beyond reasonable doubt that the shells now in evidence are the same ones that were collected at the scene.

Because "cop said so" is enough for some people to believe something "beyond any reasonable doubt".  Which ignores the many examples throughout history of police misconduct.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2019, 11:03:52 PM »
That's exactly right.  The case has been very clearly laid out as to how the shells are authentic, a point that these two clowns fail to grasp.  Both Dhority and Doughty would testify that the shells in evidence are the shells turned over to them by each of the Davis sisters.  Now it is up to the kooks to prove Dhority and Doughty wrong.

Given that neither Doughty or Dhority retrieved any shells from the scene, I'm not sure what you think that proves.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2019, 03:17:02 AM »
When FBI Agent Cortland Cunningham testified before the WC he demonstrated how the spent shells were extracted from the 38 caliber S&W revolver. He pushed the cylinder to the left and out of the revolver frame and then pushed the extractor rod to the rear and pushed all of the spent shells out in one action.  All of the spent shells were in his hand. (and a lot of burned gunpowder was also in his hand)

The man who shot Tippit walked away removing ONE SHELL AT A TIME.... The shells that were recovered were found widely scattered .   It should be obvious to any intelligent and rational person that the man who shot Tippit was NOT using a S&W revolver.

HOWEVER ...The "experts" have sworn that the spent shells WERE FIRED IN THE S&W that was allegedly taken from Lee Oswald in the theater.  SO, since the "experts" have verified that the spent shells were fired in the S&W and Tippit's killer was NOT using a S&W .....Then WHEN were these shells fired in that S&W???

P.S....  Lee Oswald's hand would have been liberally coated with burned gunpowder if he had fired the S&W revolver that was allegedly in his belt at the theater.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2019, 09:50:21 AM »
Given that neither Doughty or Dhority retrieved any shells from the scene, I'm not sure what you think that proves.

That's debatable, depending on whether you want to play word games.

The case has been very clearly laid out as to how the shells are authentic, a point that these two clowns fail to grasp.  Both Dhority and Doughty would testify that the shells in evidence are the shells turned over to them by each of the Davis sisters.
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2019, 02:13:41 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.


First off... Domingo Benavides DESCRIBED the killer ...And he said the man had his hair cut in a fashion that made the back of his head appear to be flat....Lee Oswald's mug shot shows that he had a very pronounced tapered skull at the rear.....Benavides definitely was NOT describing the back of Lee Oswald's head. 

Second.... You obviously know nothing about the S&W revolver ....The rim of the shells are recessed into the cylinder ...... They can't be merely picked out and removed with your fingers....Since the 38 in question was an old revolver that had been modified to fire 38 special ammo  the chambers in the cylinder were oversize and too large in diameter to hold the 38 special cartridges tightly,... and this sloppy fit allowed the 38 spec cartridges to balloon in the chambers when they were fired. This "ballooning" of the shells caused them to stick in the chambers and made them difficult to extract even by using the extractor, and impossible to remove with your fingers.... 

Bottom line... The killer was NOT Lee Oswald.....and the killer was not using a Smith and Wesson revolver....




Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Poe Mark The Shells?
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2019, 05:16:30 PM »
Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Shell casings do not get that hot. Certainly not hot enough to prevent their being removed without burning one's hand.

Oswald was removing the shells manually because one of them had split, preventing the removal of them all at once by the extractor.

Cortland Cunningham's palm was covered with burned gunpowder when he extracted the spent shells from the S&W revolver.....Lee Oswald had NO gunpowder residue on his hands.... There was only a TRACE of nitrates..... And the  nitrites could have came from dozens of sources.