How'd He Do That?

[Richard Smith]

Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name.

One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald  ( Shortly after 2 o'clock)

Ahh... But my dear Mr "Smith".... The official story (tale) says that Captain Fritz had not determined the Identity of the suspect  and was trying to determine if the man's name was A.J. hidell, Lee Harvey Oswald, or OH Lee....    And YOU  yourself Mr "Smith" have used this very argument when you have argued that Lee Oswald had several alias.   So since Fritz hadn't determined the man's name at 2:30....How the hell could the FBI have known...Hmmmmmmm?

Again, Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.  You are erroneously and stupidly implying that because Oswald was asked later about his use of an alias that they didn't know his real name.  That is simply demonstrably false. 

Mr. WALKER. We took him up the homicide and robbery bureau, and we went back there, and one of the detectives said put him In this room. I put him in the room, and he said, "Let the uniform officers stay with him." And I went inside, and Oswald sat down, and he was handcuffed with his hands behind him. I sat down there, and I had his pistol, and he had a card in there with a picture of him and the name A. J. Hidell on it.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of card it was?
Mr. WALKER. Just an identification card. I don't recall what it was.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And I told him, "That is your real name, isn't it?"
Mr. BELIN. He - had he earlier told you his name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. WALKER. I believe he had.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And he said, "No, that is not my real name."

[Walt Cakebread]

Again, Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.  You are erroneously and stupidly implying that because Oswald was asked later about his use of an alias that they didn't know his real name.  That is simply demonstrably false. 

Mr. WALKER. We took him up the homicide and robbery bureau, and we went back there, and one of the detectives said put him In this room. I put him in the room, and he said, "Let the uniform officers stay with him." And I went inside, and Oswald sat down, and he was handcuffed with his hands behind him. I sat down there, and I had his pistol, and he had a card in there with a picture of him and the name A. J. Hidell on it.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of card it was?
Mr. WALKER. Just an identification card. I don't recall what it was.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And I told him, "That is your real name, isn't it?"
Mr. BELIN. He - had he earlier told you his name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. WALKER. I believe he had.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And he said, "No, that is not my real name."

 Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.

 Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest. 

Really?  TEN  ID's...   List them.....

He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.

Please provide the tape recording in which Shelley says anything at the time Lee is brought into the police station....Photos show Shelley just sitting there like a toad in the sun, and saying nothing to anybody.

He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.

Thank you for exaggerating ( aka lying) Walker didn't immediately ask Lee to identify himself.... He allegedly searched through Lee's Wallet and claimed he found ID's with different names on them ...and THAT'S when he asked Lee to identify himself....  It was probably around 2:15 at that time.....And J.Edgar Hoover had already called his SAIC  in Dallas, Gordon Shanklin and told Shankiln to send Hosty over to the DPD to interrogate Lee Harrrrrrvey Osssssswald  because Hosty had been "working with these people" ( and he knew how the frame was supposed to be set up)   

[Walt Cakebread]

Again, Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.  You are erroneously and stupidly implying that because Oswald was asked later about his use of an alias that they didn't know his real name.  That is simply demonstrably false. 

Mr. WALKER. We took him up the homicide and robbery bureau, and we went back there, and one of the detectives said put him In this room. I put him in the room, and he said, "Let the uniform officers stay with him." And I went inside, and Oswald sat down, and he was handcuffed with his hands behind him. I sat down there, and I had his pistol, and he had a card in there with a picture of him and the name A. J. Hidell on it.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of card it was?
Mr. WALKER. Just an identification card. I don't recall what it was.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And I told him, "That is your real name, isn't it?"
Mr. BELIN. He - had he earlier told you his name was Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. WALKER. I believe he had.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. WALKER. And he said, "No, that is not my real name."

FBI agent James Hosty wrote: Shortly after 2 o'clock, we received information that this man had been captured and taken to the Dallas Police Department. One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald. I immediately recognized the name.

One of our agents called from the Dallas Police Department and identified this man as Lee Harvey Oswald  ( Shortly after 2 o'clock)

Page 16  Assignment : Oswald   Written by FBI Agent James Hosty.... ( You may recall that Hosty was in the thick of it)

TIME 2:15 P. M.    A hand clutched my elbow. I spun, Howe was in my face.  "They've just arrested a guy named Lee Oswald, and they're booking him for the killing of the policeman over in Oak Cliff.   Officer's name was Tippit.

He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time. 

Let's see if we can get the chronology in order..... 

At about 2:05 Hoover calls His Dallas FBI office and tells SAIC Gordon Shanklin to send Hosty over to the DPD, to assist in the interrogation of Lee Harrrrrrvey Osssssswald, Because Hosty had been "working with these people" ( LHO and )     Obviously Hoover had to have known the identity of the man who had been taken alive at the Texas theater prior to making the 2:05 call.   So even if Walker determined that the man's name was Lee Oswald .....J.Edgar Hoover knew it before Walker had asked Lee any questions.

[John Iacoletti]

Again, Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.

Again, how do you know this this occurred "at that time"?

[Richard Smith]

Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest.  He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.  He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.

 Oswald had ten IDs in his own name upon arrest. 

Really?  TEN  ID's...   List them.....

He was immediately identified by Bill Shelley as LHO when he was brought in at around 2PM.

Please provide the tape recording in which Shelley says anything at the time Lee is brought into the police station....Photos show Shelley just sitting there like a toad in the sun, and saying nothing to anybody.

He arrived at the DPD at 2PM or just a couple minutes later.  Oswald admits his identity to CT Walker at that time.

Thank you for exaggerating ( aka lying) Walker didn't immediately ask Lee to identify himself.... He allegedly searched through Lee's Wallet and claimed he found ID's with different names on them ...and THAT'S when he asked Lee to identify himself....  It was probably around 2:15 at that time.....And J.Edgar Hoover had already called his SAIC  in Dallas, Gordon Shanklin and told Shankiln to send Hosty over to the DPD to interrogate Lee Harrrrrrvey Osssssswald  because Hosty had been "working with these people" ( and he knew how the frame was supposed to be set up)

Whew.  So much nonsense and falsehoods in one short post.  Here is the list of the contents of Oswald's wallet:  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pdf/WH24_CE_1986.pdf


The rest of your rambling nonsense is based on a false premise.  The sequence of events is that Oswald is identified (he has multiple IDs in his name, a co-worker confirms his identity, and Oswald confirms his name to CT Walker), an agent calls the Dallas FBI with that information ("shortly after 2"), Hosty recognizes Oswald's name, Dallas FBI then "immediately" inform FBI HQ of the suspect's name and that they have a file on him.  Hosty, as the agent in charge of Oswald's file, is then understandably dispatched to attend his interrogation.  There is no mystery there. 

[John Iacoletti]

Whew.  So much nonsense and falsehoods in one short post.  Here is the list of the contents of Oswald's wallet:  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pdf/WH24_CE_1986.pdf

I only count 9.  Which of his 5 wallets was that though?

[Walt Cakebread]

Whew.  So much nonsense and falsehoods in one short post.  Here is the list of the contents of Oswald's wallet:  https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pdf/WH24_CE_1986.pdf


The rest of your rambling nonsense is based on a false premise.  The sequence of events is that Oswald is identified (he has multiple IDs in his name, a co-worker confirms his identity, and Oswald confirms his name to CT Walker), an agent calls the Dallas FBI with that information ("shortly after 2"), Hosty recognizes Oswald's name, Dallas FBI then "immediately" inform FBI HQ of the suspect's name and that they have a file on him.  Hosty, as the agent in charge of Oswald's file, is then understandably dispatched to attend his interrogation.  There is no mystery there.

Errrr.... Mr "Smith"....Perhaps you should take a refresher course in elementary arithmetic....basic counting.....Because either you can't count ...or you're a liar....

This list shows Seven ( 7 ) ID cards that have the name Lee Oswald ( or the initials LH Oswald)  written on them.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/pdf/WH24_CE_1986.pdf

The sequence of events is that Oswald is identified (he has multiple IDs in his name, a co-worker confirms his identity, and Oswald confirms his name to CT Walker), an agent calls the Dallas FBI with that information ("shortly after 2"), Hosty recognizes Oswald's name, Dallas FBI then "immediately" inform FBI HQ of the suspect's name and that they have a file on him.  Hosty, as the agent in charge of Oswald's file, is then understandably dispatched to attend his interrogation.

On page 16 of the book  Assignment : Oswald  Written by FBI Agent James Hosty.... ( You may recall that Hosty was in the thick of it)

Hosty wrote....TIME 2:15 P. M.    "A hand clutched my elbow. I spun, Howe was in my face.  "They've just arrested a guy named Lee Oswald, and they're booking him for the killing of the policeman over in Oak Cliff.   Officer's name was Tippit."   Hosty said that Shanklin was still on on the phone with Alan Belmont at FBI Headquarters in Washington DC. who had told Shanklin that Oswald had been arrested by the DPD, and Shanklin was ordered to send HOSTY over to the DPD.

Since Howe told Hosty that Oswald had been arrested for shooting JD Tippit ( which was NOT under FBI jurisdiction)  that information had to have been received by Shanklin in Dallas from FBI headquarters in Wash DC at no later than 2:10 and about five minutes prior to Howe telling Hosty that Lee Oswald had been arrested.