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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #196 on: February 27, 2019, 07:37:20 PM »
Magic clothes to match the magic bullet, Brent.

Nothing magic about a generic face sheet drawing not matching Kennedy's body.
Nothing magic about Kennedy's back brace; nor multiple photographs taken along the parade route revealing the constant bunching of Kennedy's suit coat.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #197 on: February 27, 2019, 07:50:07 PM »
Can you find anything at all prior to the publication of the Warren Report that suggests the wound in JFKs torso was in the neck/base of the neck/lower neck?

Is there any film or photo taken in or around the time of the shots in Dealey Plaza that shows JFKs jacker and shirt bunched right up?

All the evidence and testimony points to a wound lower in the back.

Unfortunately, the autopsy notes and first draft of the autopsy were destroyed coincidently just after Oswald was murdered and there would be no trial. I wonder what they contained! And just how did Humes get blood on that first draft when he was sat in his own study? Still he later said it was because it had spelling errors....OK doc. But as the jacket and shirt also had blood on them but werent burned it makes you wonder what was so special about the notes.

Even if a jacket bunched up it doesnt follow that a shirt that would be tucked in to the pants and fastened at the neck would also ride up. The holes in the shirt and jacket are just a 1/4 of an inch different different from each other. To say both garments rode up when there is no proof the shirt moved at all is quite fraudulent.

Give us a way of knowing for sure that the shirt didn't move up
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #198 on: February 27, 2019, 09:57:57 PM »
Give us a way of knowing for sure that the shirt didn't move up

LOL.  "The shirt bunched up unless you can prove it didn't".

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2019, 02:07:53 AM »
LOL.  "The shirt bunched up unless you can prove it didn't".

Oh yes, JFk wore tailored shirts...But some nuts insist that those custom shirts just wouldn't stay tucked in the waistband of his slacks....

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #200 on: February 28, 2019, 03:16:00 AM »
Give us a way of knowing for sure that the shirt didn't move up

"Ok, the jacket was bunched up...but the shirt wasn't." -- CT logic

Offline Brent Moldenhauer

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2019, 09:15:39 AM »
Nothing magic about a generic face sheet drawing not matching Kennedy's body.
Nothing magic about Kennedy's back brace; nor multiple photographs taken along the parade route revealing the constant bunching of Kennedy's suit coat.

Its not what the face sheet doesnt match that is the issue. It pretty much matches everything but the autopsy report. When a qualified pathologist who must be very familiar with the human anatomy cannot put a dot in the lower neck instead of in the back but places where all the other evidence puts it, does that not seem strange?

Can you show me a photograph in Dealey Plaza that shows JFKs shirt and jacket bunching up to the extent that holes in both garments, approx 5 and a half inches down from the collar, could cause a wound in the lower neck?

Just how does a shirt that is tucked in to the pants, and fastened at the collar, ride up to that extent? We are not talking about someone who put on his brothers hand me down shirt, we are talking about a man who had his clothes made to measure. I have tried it and sat in a car, with off the peg jacket and shirts, some too bag, some just right and some too small, and I cannot replicate it. 2 inches is the absolute best I could do and that was by deliberately sliding down in the seat.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: The Fundamental Problem
« Reply #202 on: February 28, 2019, 09:39:02 AM »
"Ok, the jacket was bunched up...but the shirt wasn't." -- CT logic

"O.K. The jacket bunched up, therefore the shirt must have bunched up as well" LN logic.