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Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #175 on: February 12, 2019, 02:46:18 AM »
I've read Silvia Odio's testimony and I believe you're a bit confused ( which is understandable because she was also a bit confused)   

Silvia said she told her father Amador that one of the men (plural) was Leopoldo when the fact is that Amador asked Silvia not to trust anyone until she got the guys name.
The way I read that is Silvia had told her father that the man used his "war name" Leopoldo ....Her father didn't recognize that name and cautioned Silvia ...If the man returned to be sure to get his full name.

That is just patently stupid. As a member of JURE Silvia would never reveal the "war name" in a letter guaranteed to be intercepted by Castro authorities. IMHO, what Amador meant was to caution Silvia not to trust anyone she didn't know claiming to be from JURE until she did get to know the person and could be trusted with whatever the situation dictated.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #176 on: February 12, 2019, 03:21:27 PM »
That is just patently stupid. As a member of JURE Silvia would never reveal the "war name" in a letter guaranteed to be intercepted by Castro authorities. IMHO, what Amador meant was to caution Silvia not to trust anyone she didn't know claiming to be from JURE until she did get to know the person and could be trusted with whatever the situation dictated.

A war name was an alias.... Leopoldo was an alias... So why wouldn't Silvia have told her father that a man named "Leopoldo" had knocked on her door??

Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #177 on: February 12, 2019, 07:09:35 PM »
A war name was an alias.... Leopoldo was an alias... So why wouldn't Silvia have told her father that a man named "Leopoldo" had knocked on her door??

Because you don't want to give the enemy any information that could be used against you.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #178 on: February 12, 2019, 07:31:56 PM »
A war name was an alias.... Leopoldo was an alias... So why wouldn't Silvia have told her father that a man named "Leopoldo" had knocked on her door??
Question: Amador wrote the letter while he was still in prison. Do you think the Cuban authorities would let him send a letter, from prison, to Silvia exposing their infiltration (or attempted infiltration) of the JURE in this alleged meeting/event?

If these men were Cuban agents I doubt that the Cuban authorities holding Amador would let him give Silvia any evidence exposing them.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #179 on: February 12, 2019, 09:39:50 PM »
Question: Amador wrote the letter while he was still in prison. Do you think the Cuban authorities would let him send a letter, from prison, to Silvia exposing their infiltration (or attempted infiltration) of the JURE in this alleged meeting/event?

If these men were Cuban agents I doubt that the Cuban authorities holding Amador would let him give Silvia any evidence exposing them.


I donno.... Silvia's father simply told her to be careful.... That's something any father would do....  It doesn't specify that the men might be Castro's agents. 
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #180 on: February 13, 2019, 12:05:59 AM »
Read the letter. The link has been provided. In fact the most pertinent part has been underlined. Couldn't make it any easier. Besides the letter there's Silvia Odio's testimony.

I did read the letter.  Assuming that it has been translated accurately, where does it say anything about anyone coming to her apartment or when or how many?

Here's what it actually says:

"Tell me who this is who says he is my friend -- be careful, I do not have any friend who might be here, through Dallas, so reject his friendship until you give me his name. You are alone, without men to protect you and you can be deceived."

So I'll ask again:  where does it say anything about anyone coming to her apartment or when or how many?

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« Reply #181 on: February 15, 2019, 08:06:24 PM »
I did read the letter.  Assuming that it has been translated accurately, where does it say anything about anyone coming to her apartment or when or how many?

Here's what it actually says:

"Tell me who this is who says he is my friend -- be careful, I do not have any friend who might be here, through Dallas, so reject his friendship until you give me his name. You are alone, without men to protect you and you can be deceived."

So I'll ask again:  where does it say anything about anyone coming to her apartment or when or how many?

Amador refers to a single person so that would be one. When can only be the dates Silvia claims the 26th or 27th of September, 1963. Where can only be where Silvia lived.