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Lack Of Damage To CE-399
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Tim Nickerson on April 19, 2020, 10:28:52 PM ---Near impossible? Where do you get that from?
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Oh Thank you , thank you. thank you...... for bringing up my favorite subject.....
This letter from Hoover's Mob is a gargantuan CROCK!..... And since you have posted it..... WHERE are he photos of the microscopic comparison between the lifted print and the metal barrel?? Have you forgotten that it was an FBI Lab man who testified that he had not been able to find any evidence that the area of the carcano where Day claimed that he had found and lifted the print had been subjected to finger print powder nor could he detect that a lift had been performed. He said he had never experienced any case in which a print had been lifted so completely that there was none of the print left behind....
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on April 19, 2020, 11:42:09 PM ---Beside, let’s see the actual examination. We got a claim from Hoover and a smudge.
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We got a claim from Hoover and a smudge.
That's absolutely right.... What has been presented to us by "experts" as Lee Oswald's Palm Print ...Is nothing but a damned unidentifiable SMUDGE.
I've said this many many times, but I'll say it again..... The barrel was only 5/8 " in diameter ( the diameter of a AA penlight battery) A tube that size is waaaaaaay too small to accept a adult mans palm print......
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on April 20, 2020, 02:52:22 AM ---Oh Thank you , thank you. thank you...... for bringing up my favorite subject.....
This letter from Hoover's Mob is a gargantuan CROCK!..... And since you have posted it..... WHERE are he photos of the microscopic comparison between the lifted print and the metal barrel?? Have you forgotten that it was an FBI Lab man who testified that he had not been able to find any evidence that the area of the carcano where Day claimed that he had found and lifted the print had been subjected to finger print powder nor could he detect that a lift had been performed. He said he had never experienced any case in which a print had been lifted so completely that there was none of the print left behind....
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He said he had never experienced any case in which a print had been lifted so completely that there was none of the print left behind....
His commonsense told him that this story about a palm print having been found and lifted from THE SMALL DIAMETER METAL BARREL by the bumbling Lt Day was a lie.
And in fact we can prove that Lt. Day never found any print on the metal barrel if we use our heads and the evidence before us.....
The primary piece of evidence is the evidence inventory list that was created to accompany the photo of the evidence that was being released to the FBI at midnight 11/22/63. I know that there is going to be strong opposition to presenting this evidence, but that's the way it's been since the shots were fired over 56 years ago.
There are several facets to this "Palm print on the barrel" tale....... So let's start with the photo of the evidence that was being released ....and note that not all of the evidence that was being released is shown in the photo. There are four cardboard boxes that were sent to the FBI that night that are not shown in the photo, but (IMO they are unimportant ). There are--- 3 negatives of partial prints "found on trigger housing of rifle ser. # C 2766" That are not seen in the photo, and there is one 3 X 5 index card that had a piece of cellophane tape stuck to it.....That cellophane tape carried 1" Partial palm print off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip " on rifle C 2766. The quotation marks are on the list indicating that the words are being taken from the notation on the 3 X 5 index card.
The alert reader will notice that the words "1 Partial palm print off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip " on rifle C 2766. are the exact words that appear on the index card that the DPD claimed carried the palm print of Lee Oswald that Lt Day had found and lifted from the underside of the metal barrel of the carcano but was never released to the FBI at midnight 11/22/63.
The evidence list is solid proof that the 3 x5 index card carrying the cellophane tape with the lift on it was released to the FBI at midnight.....
I know there is going to be opposition to this evidence list.....There are going to be those who say this list was NOT created on 11/22/63 .....
So we'll debate that point before continuing ........
Item # 6 on the altered list says.....Quote..." 1 - .38 cal pistol, 2 inch barrel, S&W, Rev., sand blast finish, brown wooden handles, ser. # 510210. Rel. to FBI agent 11-22-63 and again on 11-26-63.
Released to FBI agent, Vince Drain, on 11-22-63 and again on 11-26-63.
They wanted it on the altered list, because that altered list was created AFTER the FBI returned the evidence to Dallas...and that was AFTER Day ( with help ) had invented the tale (damned lie) about finding the print but had failed to tell the FBI on 11 /22/63.
in the colored photo the bayonet groove is clearly visible .....The end of the bayonet groove is about 3 1/2 inches back from the end of the wooden stock. So Lt Day guessed fairly accurately when he said he found the print about three inches back from the end of the wooden stock.
Jerry Freeman:
El Bumpo-------------------------
If you take this thread to page 12 or so you will find that CE 399 was abandoned for jackets and backyard photographs and darn it I am going to put it back.
I discovered this video posted by Martin Weidmann in a now locked thread.
It clearly shows this bullet fired into a block of gelatin. If you can stop action the motion in time at the very first you can see the bullet with a clearly defined nose enter and then when it exits [yes it traveled straight through without deviation] when it leaves the gel...the nose is flatter than a 5 year old. In fact you can see it slowly flatten on the way through.
So what does this say about all this lack of damage to CE 399?
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQx2eHpDVnE
Jerry Freeman:
--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on June 09, 2022, 06:53:43 AM ---El Bumpo-------------------------
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Thread from 2 years ago
Another video start action at 2:30.........
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjiqGPwrIwA
The gel looks like the Terminator T-1000
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