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Lack Of Damage To CE-399
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: Tim Nickerson on April 15, 2020, 05:38:03 AM ---No, I have not read it.
I'd have to see the newspaper article before addressing your question.
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I'm not sure how to post the actual article here, but I did find a mention of it in a ARRB Memo from Joe Freeman to Jeremy Gunn dated April 26, 1996
http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/ARRB/JFREEMAN/WP-DOCS/041996.WPD.pdf
On page 14 it says;
4/11/77 HSCA staffer Kevin Walsh writes a memo referencing a call from Dallas reporter Earl Golz in which Golz says that a Texas State Trooper named Charles W. Harbison had come forward with the following information: Harbison claimed to have been at Parkland several days after the assassination, as Governor Connally was being moved out of the Intensive Care Unit; Harbison claimed that one of Connally’s doctors handed Harbison three or more bullet fragments which were explained to Harbison as having been removed from Connally. Harbison told Golz he turned the fragments over to an FBI agent whose name he could not recall. Apparently, Golz wrote about this claim in an article for the Dallas Morning News in or near the 1st of April, 1977. Golz told Walsh that he (Golz) had put Harbison in touch with Audrey Bell and that Harbison believes the fragments he handled were different from the ones Bell was involved with.
No other information or corroboration has been found regarding this claim; nor has the news article been located as of this writing.
Another interesting twist....
John Tonkovich:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 15, 2020, 04:01:46 PM ---And to add to the general confusion about bullets and fragments, there's this;
between 1.56 and 2.18 it gets interesting
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qUVsgCIpc
Whatever happened to the bullet she saw next to Kennedy?
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Thx for the video. Forgot to say so in above post.
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 15, 2020, 04:01:46 PM ---And to add to the general confusion about bullets and fragments, there's this;
between 1.56 and 2.18 it gets interesting
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qUVsgCIpc
Whatever happened to the bullet she saw next to Kennedy?
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"and ON THE CART, halfway between the earlobe and the shoulder, there was a bullet laying almost perpendicular there."
Why stop there? Let's add more to the general confusion about bullets and fragments.
I could see a bullet lodged between his ear and his shoulder
Tim Nickerson:
--- Quote from: John Tonkovich on April 15, 2020, 03:08:40 PM ---An X ray is a 2D image. Hard to tell mass without depth, i.e. 3D.
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There was more than one X-Ray taken of the thigh. There were three. Two anterior posterial views and one lateral view. Dr Gregory examined all three.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Martin Weidmann on April 15, 2020, 01:40:59 AM ---Fair enough. I had not seen the actual receipt and only quoted from her ARRB statement. So, she did give it to Nolan after all.
However, although I am not at home and don't have access to all my files, I did check a hard drive with some material on it and came across a newspaper clip from the days of the HSCA. It does not say the name of the paper or an exact date, but mentions that HSCA investigators had finished talking to Audrey Bell. In the article it says that another Patrolman named C. Harbison was also given 3 fragments of a bullet that came from Connally's body. He turned them over to the FBI. My initial thought was that he must have been the other plain clothes officer with Nolan, but the article says that Harbison was given the three fragments on 11/25/63. Three days after Bell gave her fragments to Nolan. I wonder what happened to Harbison's fragments and why he - according to the article - was never called to testify.....
It does not say in the ARRB report that she was shown a photocopy nor that she could only make out the large fragment. And she did in fact say that the fragments were too small!
The ARRB report says: "When shown CE 842 (page 841 in Warren Commission Volume XVII), she said that the fragment(s) photographed in the container were too small, and were too few in number, to represent what she handled on 11/22/63."
As I said before, fair enough.
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the article says that Harbison was given the three fragments on 11/25/63. Three days after Bell gave her fragments to Nolan.
Item number 7 on the evidence list for 11/22/63 lists "Bullet fragments taken from body of of Governor Connally" The note accompanying the description of item #7 says....Mrs Audrey Bell, Operating room nurse , to Bob Nolan, DPS, to Capt. Fritz, to Crime lab, to FBI.
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