Lack Of Damage To CE-399

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #350 on: April 15, 2020, 04:14:10 AM »
In saying that another Patrolman named C. Harbison was also given 3 fragments of a bullet that came from Connally's body.

At the beginning of tape #2 is where you'll hear the discussion of CE 842.

In saying that another Patrolman named C. Harbison was also given 3 fragments of a bullet that came from Connally's body.

Do you know the article and have you read it?

It starts with: "A Texas highway patrolman who guarded then Gov John Connally's room at Parkland Hospital has told the Dallas Morning News he recalls turning over to an FBI agent more than three bullet fragments purportedly removed from Connally the day President John Kennedy was assassinated."

Later in the article it says: "Harbison was interviewed by the News Saturday"

This means they got the information directly from Harbison. Was the officers lying?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #351 on: April 15, 2020, 05:38:03 AM »
In saying that another Patrolman named C. Harbison was also given 3 fragments of a bullet that came from Connally's body.

Do you know the article and have you read it?

No, I have not read it.

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It starts with: "A Texas highway patrolman who guarded then Gov John Connally's room at Parkland Hospital has told the Dallas Morning News he recalls turning over to an FBI agent more than three bullet fragments purportedly removed from Connally the day President John Kennedy was assassinated."

Later in the article it says: "Harbison was interviewed by the News Saturday"

This means they got the information directly from Harbison. Was the officers lying?

I'd have to see the newspaper article before addressing your question.

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #352 on: April 15, 2020, 03:08:40 PM »
We know the approximate mass of what's still in Connally because Dr Gregory told us the approximate size of the fragment seen in the X-ray of the thigh. Half a mm by 2 mm. Dr Shires said that it looked smaller than that.
An X ray is a 2D image. Hard to tell mass without depth, i.e. 3D.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #353 on: April 15, 2020, 04:01:46 PM »
And to add to the general confusion about bullets and fragments, there's this;

between 1.56 and 2.18 it gets interesting


Whatever happened to the bullet she saw next to Kennedy?

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #354 on: April 15, 2020, 04:39:54 PM »


Whatever happened to the bullet she saw next to Kennedy?
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It became..."The Magic Bullet", to save Connaly's career.  If it were known that Connally did nothing to help the President, and that Connally was not hit until Zapruder 312, well...

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #355 on: April 15, 2020, 04:51:47 PM »
No, I have not read it.

I'd have to see the newspaper article before addressing your question.

I'm not sure how to post the actual article here, but I did find a mention of it in a ARRB Memo from Joe Freeman to Jeremy Gunn dated April 26, 1996

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/ARRB/JFREEMAN/WP-DOCS/041996.WPD.pdf

On page 14 it says;

4/11/77 HSCA staffer Kevin Walsh writes a memo referencing a call from Dallas reporter Earl Golz in which Golz says that a Texas State Trooper named Charles W. Harbison had come forward with the following information: Harbison claimed to have been at Parkland several days after the assassination, as Governor Connally was being moved out of the Intensive Care Unit; Harbison claimed that one of Connally’s doctors handed Harbison three or more bullet fragments which were explained to Harbison as having been removed from Connally.  Harbison told  Golz he turned the fragments over to an FBI agent whose name he  could not recall.  Apparently, Golz wrote about this claim in an article for the Dallas Morning News in or near the 1st of April, 1977.  Golz told Walsh that he (Golz) had put Harbison in touch with Audrey Bell and that Harbison believes the fragments he handled were different from the ones Bell was involved with.
 
No other information or corroboration has been found regarding this claim; nor has the news article been located as of this writing.

Another interesting twist....
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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #356 on: April 15, 2020, 04:58:25 PM »
And to add to the general confusion about bullets and fragments, there's this;

between 1.56 and 2.18 it gets interesting


Whatever happened to the bullet she saw next to Kennedy?
Thx for the video. Forgot to say so in above post.