Lack Of Damage To CE-399

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Offline Liam Kelly

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2019, 02:02:38 PM »
I appreciate the discussion....but....

I dont know why people still talk about this bullet.

The man who found it already has said the one in the archives is not the one he found
at the hospital and the Warren Commission itself didnt give the theory 'the thumbs up' either...

( It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building. )

Why do people say its an official truth?
The Warren Commission didnt.

It's nothing of the kind.

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2019, 05:36:08 PM »
I appreciate the discussion....but....

I dont know why people still talk about this bullet.

The man who found it already has said the one in the archives is not the one he found
at the hospital and the Warren Commission itself didnt give the theory 'the thumbs up' either...

( It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building. )

Why do people say its an official truth?
The Warren Commission didnt.

It's nothing of the kind.
The reason it is still talked about is that in order to believe that it was not fired at the President's car one would have to believe in a broad conspiracy that involved someone who:
1. created the bullet by firing it with Oswald's gun before the assassination for a reason that is not readily apparent.
2. knew before hand that there would be a bullet that passed through at least one person without striking bone and that could not later be found
2. went to all the trouble of getting into Parkland Hospital and planting it in or near Gov. Connally's stretcher, for reasons that are not readily apparent
3. relied on someone to discover it in circumstances where it could be traced to Gov. Connally's stretcher, or not, for reasons not readily apparent

Since there is not only no evidence of the above but no rational theory whereby it even begins to make any sense, the possibility that it is not a bullet fired by the MC during the assassination is one that does not loom very large in the opinion of most reasonable people who have considered the evidence.

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2019, 06:47:43 PM »
I appreciate the discussion....but....

I dont know why people still talk about this bullet.

The man who found it already has said the one in the archives is not the one he found
at the hospital and the Warren Commission itself didnt give the theory 'the thumbs up' either...

( It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building. )

Why do people say its an official truth?
The Warren Commission didnt.

It's nothing of the kind.

The man who found the bullet on Connally's stretcher did NOT say that the one in the archives is not the one he found.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2019, 07:08:09 PM »
It depends on what the bullet looked like and its dimensions and its condition.  It did not necessarily hit sideways.  If the bullet was large diameter and yawing it could have made that kind of entry wound - or if the bullet was deformed.  In the case of CE399 which is 2.8 cm long and undamaged, in order to make a 3 cm wound BC's back wound due to tumbling it would have to hit side-on.

WCC 6.5mm bullets are actually 3 cm long. But you're correct in acknowledging that in order to make a 3 cm wound in Connally's back it would have had to have been tumbling. I'll take that as your use of Olivier's testimony as being inoperative.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:23 PM »
Why do people say its an official truth?
The Warren Commission didn't.
The Report states -----
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The Warren Commission found "persuasive evidence from the experts" that a single bullet caused the President's neck wound and all the wounds found in Governor Connally. It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth-floor window of the Depository building.
So there you have it.... If the Report claimed it then it became evidence and therefor truth ;)
 

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2019, 08:34:35 PM »
The Report states -----  So there you have it.... If the Report claimed it then it became evidence and therefor truth ;)
 

You have to go where the evidence takes you. The evidence leads to the SBT.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2019, 08:41:18 PM »
  The evidence leads to the SBT.
Isn't that what I posted? :-\ One question--  If it's truth, why is it still called a theory?