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When did Jarman and Norman go to the 5th floor?
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Colin Crow on January 30, 2018, 12:25:07 PM ---We will never know the exact time they reentered the TSBD but the important fact was that it was at a time that was close to the scheduled time for the motorcade to pass. Well after Arnold Rowland saw a man with a rifle in the SW window of the 6th floor. Certainly it is interesting that Oswald should single out those two in particular during interrogation. From memory one of those present claimed Oswald said they "passed through" the domino room. A perculiar expression to use for a room with only one entrance. Perhaps it was "passed by" instead.
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None of the interrogators were familiar with the layout of the TSBD at the time Lee was being interrogated. Even at the time they wrote their reports they didn't know things like you've pointed out...that there was no portal that allowed a person to enter the Domino room from outside. Thus they were confused about what Lee told them.....and therefore wrote inaccurate reports.
Colin Crow:
The fact that there is not consistency of detail provided by those that were present may well have been contributed largely because of ignorance of the layout.
Does it not seem bizarre that an accused would try to claim an alibi of having lunch with individuals if it did not happen? They would simply deny it ever occurred and the lie add weight to the guilt of the accused.
However if they were noticed either passing by the northern window of the domino room or heading away from the domino room to the west elevator it would be worth mentioning during interrogation to establish presence away from the SN at that time.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Colin Crow on January 30, 2018, 12:59:48 PM ---The fact that there is not consistency of detail provided by those that were present may well have been contributed largely because of ignorance of the layout.
Does it not seem bizarre that an accused would try to claim an alibi of having lunch with individuals if it did not happen? They would simply deny it ever occurred and the lie add weight to the guilt of the accused.
However if they were noticed either passing by the northern window of the domino room or heading away from the domino room to the west elevator it would be worth mentioning during interrogation to establish presence away from the SN at that time.
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Does it not seem bizarre that an accused would try to claim an alibi of having lunch with individuals if it did not happen? They would simply deny it ever occurred and the lie add weight to the guilt of the accused.
Indeed it would be utterly stupid for the accused (Lee Oswald) to claim that he had companions eating lunch with him at 12:27.
Lee Oswald wasn't stupid..... He wouldn't have told the interrogators such a stupid lie.....They simply misunderstood what he told them or deliberately misconstrued what he told them.
However if they were noticed (by LHO) either passing by the northern window of the domino room or heading away from the domino room to the west elevator it would be worth mentioning during interrogation to establish presence away from the SN at that time.
Yes...And in fact that is exactly what Lee did..... Unfortunately he never realized that he was talking to one of the key conspirators who would twist his statements.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on January 30, 2018, 03:49:07 PM ---If Oswald was in the Sniper's Nest, couldn't he have seen Jarman and Norman on the street below? And wouldn't he know Jarman and Norman were together from them having arrived at the fifth-floor window together?
Was there some stretch in assuming they went up from the street and through the building together, including passing by the domino room?
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If Oswald was in the Sniper's Nest, couldn't he have seen Jarman and Norman on the street below?
Sure... if he had a neck like a giraffe .......
And wouldn't he know Jarman and Norman were together from them having arrived at the fifth-floor window together?
Sure.... with his giraffe neck he could have looked down from the sixth floor window and seen them.
Was there some stretch in assuming they went up from the street and through the building together, including passing by the domino room?
Stretch?? interesting choice of words there Mr Organ...... Considering that Lee would have had to STRETCH his giraffe neck to see what you propose....
Bob Prudhomme:
Colin
If Jarman and Norman did not go up to the 5th floor until 1220-1225, and Bonnie Ray Williams did not descend from the 6th floor to join them until after that, that can only mean BRW was present on the 6th floor, almost right on top of the Sniper's Nest, slightly before the motorcade passed at 1230.
How would Oswald have been able to re-arrange all of the boxes in the SN without BRW hearing or seeing him, as BRW was within spitting distance of the SN?
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