Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Walt Cakebread]

Always amazes me that everything Marina says is a lie, despite mountains of proof for most of the things she talked about, yet everything someone like Roger Craig says is gospel.

Marina was generally truthful, while Roger Craig had a propensity to fabricate stories ( Craig's tales usually contained much truth, but were false in the salient  point. )

[Gerry Down]

The FACT is:..... Marina completely divorced herself from "Good Samaritan Ruthie" after the assassination, and had no more contact with the good Quaker...

This is not the action of someone who values the other person's friendship.

People fall out all the time. It doesn't mean one or the other are not truthful.

Marina gave a genuine excuse for why she lied the first time about Oswalds Mexico City trip. She didn't know exactly why Oswald went to Mexico City and so was unsure if she should admit he went there or not.

[Martin Weidmann]

People fall out all the time. It doesn't mean one or the other are not truthful.

Marina gave a genuine excuse for why she lied the first time about Oswalds Mexico City trip. She didn't know exactly why Oswald went to Mexico City and so was unsure if she should admit he went there or not.

The question that should be asked is: Why do we have to rely on testimony from Marina and others to determine that Oswald was in Mexico or not?

The Russian and Cuban Embassies and Consulates in Mexico were on 24/7 surveillance by the CIA, so why is there not one photo, not one taped phone call, of Oswald in Mexico? Do we really believe that all the CIA's systems failed at the exact same time? Really?

[Walt Cakebread]

The question that should be asked is: Why do we have to rely on testimony from Marina and others to determine that Oswald was in Mexico or not?

The Russian and Cuban Embassies and Consulates in Mexico were on 24/7 surveillance by the CIA, so why is there not one photo, not one taped phone call, of Oswald in Mexico? Do we really believe that all the CIA's systems failed at the exact same time? Really?

Could it be that our intel agencies didn't want us to know that Lee had been in Mexico City?  I'd remind you that Hoover was so livid with FBI agent Hosty that he jerked Hosty out of the interrogation sessions of lee Oswald, because Hosty had broached the Mexico City  trip in front of Captain Fritz.....

[Gerry Down]

The Russian and Cuban Embassies and Consulates in Mexico were on 24/7 surveillance by the CIA, so why is there not one photo, not one taped phone call, of Oswald in Mexico? Do we really believe that all the CIA's systems failed at the exact same time? Really?

Most likely they hid these right from the beginning because they didn't want the public finding out about their secret surveillance operations in Mexico City. The only reason we found out about the surveillance operations is because the Mystery Man photo was shown to Marguerite Oswald on Nov 23rd 1963 to see if he was an accomplice of Oswald and after seeing Ruby shoot Oswald the next day, she then thought the man looked like Ruby.

With her blabbering on to people like Mark Lane that she "was shown a photo of Ruby on Nov 23rd 1963", the Warren Commission was forced to publish the Mystery Man photo to shut up her conspiracy theories.

There was nothing mysterious about the Mexico City trip. The CIA covered up about it because they didn't want the public knowing about their surveillance operation there.

[Jerry Freeman]

Most likely they hid these right from the beginning because they didn't want the public finding out about their secret surveillance operations in Mexico City. The only reason we found out about the surveillance operations is because the Mystery Man photo was shown to Marguerite Oswald on Nov 23rd 1963 to see if he was an accomplice of Oswald and after seeing Ruby shoot Oswald the next day, she then thought the man looked like Ruby.

With her blabbering on to people like Mark Lane that she "was shown a photo of Ruby on Nov 23rd 1963", the Warren Commission was forced to publish the Mystery Man photo to shut up her conspiracy theories.

There was nothing mysterious about the Mexico City trip. The CIA covered up about it because they didn't want the public knowing about their surveillance operation there.

What do you mean there was nothing mysterious about the trip? Still today it nothing but a mystery.
No one paid any attention to Marguerite anyway so she prompted nothing. Who showed her a picture of some mystery man? You say there was nothing mysterious and then you mention a mystery man. Make up my mind...or go back and re-read this entire thread again.
Especially the part where J Edna Hoover writes a memo stating that Oswald had made several trips to Cuba. Did you miss that part?
Mexico City was Surveillance Central and everybody swampy in politics and the media elite knew it. The Ruskies watched us and we watched them... the entire yarn of Oswald going back to the USSR via Cuba via Mexico was a senselessly scripted spin.
Even the CIA authors who wrote it mention that a lot of it was all pure speculation anyway.

Silvia Duran gives Oswald her phone number and tells him to call her when he gets his Soviet visa.

Why?
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP10M00666R000503450002-3.pdf
 

[Gary Craig]

11/23/63
Lyndon B. Johnson: Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?

J. Edgar Hoover: No, that's one angle that's very confusing, for this reason - we have up here the tape and
the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald's name. That picture and the tape do not correspond
to this man's voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the
Soviet embassy down there. We do have a copy of a letter which was written by Oswald to the Soviet embassy here in
Washington, inquiring as well as complaining about the harassment of his wife and the questioning of his wife by the FBI.
Now, of course, that letter information - we process all mail that goes to the Soviet embassy. It's a very secret operation.
No mail is delivered to the embassy without being examined and opened by us, so that we know what they receive... The case,
as it stands now, isn't strong enough to be able to get a conviction... Now if we can identify this man who was at the...
Soviet embassy in Mexico City... This man Oswald has still denied everything. He doesn't know anything about anything, but
the gun thing, of course, is a definite trend.