Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #301 on: January 05, 2020, 04:48:27 PM »
From an earlier reply...How did/could he possibly know that? Unless..there was indeed an imposter gallivanting around posing as Oswald.
The memo was sent to "his own small band of loyal agents"
No doubt Jane Edna Hoover played footsie with whoever had the drop on him...organized crime/mob/mafia whatever...  He knew Kennedy was going to retire him.
Oh don't forget...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
Everybody wanted Havana back for their own personal playground.

Everybody wanted Havana back for their own personal playground.

The Mob wanted Havana.... HL Hunt wanted Cuban oil and sugar production ....  (Incidentally HL Hunt and J.Edgar Hoover were close personal friends.... If Hoover needed financing for a project (  like paying a hit man to kill Marilyn Monroe) ) HL Hunt just dipped into his pocket and forked over the funds.

Notice that this memo was written about 3:01 CST 11 /22/63 ......And Hoover already has the story (Lies) created.   Lee had been arrested about an hour earlier.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62251#relPageId=96&tab=

Notice that Hoover says that Lee went to Cuba on several occasions but he wouldn't tell the FBI why he went to Cuba.   

Amazing!!...   WHEN would Lee have gone to Cuba on several occasions???    This document ( hoover memo)  is astounding...What a pack of lies!!
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #302 on: January 05, 2020, 05:06:01 PM »
From an earlier reply...How did/could he possibly know that? Unless..there was indeed an imposter gallivanting around posing as Oswald.
The memo was sent to "his own small band of loyal agents"
No doubt Jane Edna Hoover played footsie with whoever had the drop on him...organized crime/mob/mafia whatever...  He knew Kennedy was going to retire him.
Oh don't forget...  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
Everybody wanted Havana back for their own personal playground.

The memo was sent to "his own small band of loyal agents"

No the memo was NOT sent to his private secret band of loyal agents.....  That memo was sent to his staff ....   Hoover had a band of "extra Special "  Special agents like Guy Bannister and Henry Wade...  Who allegedly were "retired" FBI agents, but in reality were still on Hoover's payroll.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #303 on: January 05, 2020, 09:30:30 PM »
  "extra Special "  Special agents like Guy Bannister and Henry Wade...  Who allegedly were "retired" FBI agents, but in reality were still on Hoover's payroll.
Xtra special...OK Thumb1:
 But we know that Wade was not really a retired agent--- only in the FBI four years ...however he was very much in the loop.
BTW Guy Banister was retired...a 20 yr service in the FBI..... ::) [20 years --woopie crap]
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #304 on: January 06, 2020, 03:01:15 PM »
Here are two links to photos of the draft notes/letter that Oswald wrote (experts concluded the handwriting was his) where he mentions going to Mexico City and visiting the Cuban and Soviet embassies/facilities.

Page One: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=467
Page Two: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=468&tab=page

Oswald would type a letter - using Ruth Paine's typewriter (FBI experts verified the letter was typed on it) - based on the above draft notes that he would send to the Soviet Embassy mentioning his visit. Both Ruth and Marina testified that they saw him type the letter. The handwriting on the envelope was verified as belonging to Oswald.

That letter is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=57&tab=page

We have numerous eyewitness accounts that Oswald went to MC, we have physical evidence, photos, letters, handwriting/signature, circumstantial evidence. If you don't want to believe he went to Mexico City then you have to argue that all of this was faked or planted or wrong. All of it.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #305 on: January 06, 2020, 04:09:46 PM »
Here are two links to photos of the draft notes/letter that Oswald wrote (experts concluded the handwriting was his) where he mentions going to Mexico City and visiting the Cuban and Soviet embassies/facilities.

Page One: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=467
Page Two: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=468&tab=page

Oswald would type a letter - using Ruth Paine's typewriter (FBI experts verified the letter was type on it) - based on the above draft notes that he would send to the Soviet Embassy mentioning his visit. Both Ruth and Marina testified that they saw him type the letter. The handwriting on the envelope was verified as belonging to Oswald.

That letter is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=57&tab=page

We have numerous eyewitness accounts that Oswald went to MC, we have physical evidence, photos, letters, handwriting/signature, circumstantial evidence. If you don't want to believe he went to Mexico City then you have to argue that all of this was faked or planted or wrong. All of it.

The information in the Letter to the Russian embassy was in reality intended for the FBI.    It is common knowledge that the FBI was reading all the mail that was sent through the US postal system to the Russian Embassy.  Lee was reporting that he had been unsuccessful in his mission to Mexico City.  He had been unable to obtain the Cuban visa. ( Duplicious Hoover had sent Lee to MC to try to obtain a Cuban Visa which would be used after the murder of JFK to connect Oswald to Cuba)

Recall in his memo of 3:01 PM  11 / 22 /63 Hoover wrote that Lee Oswald had been to Cuba several times, which was a damned lie, but Hoover thought that he could tie Lee Oswald to Castro, with that lie.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #306 on: January 06, 2020, 04:37:22 PM »
That letter is here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=57&tab=page We have numerous eyewitness accounts that Oswald went to MC, we have physical evidence, photos, letters, handwriting/signature, circumstantial evidence. If you don't want to believe he went to Mexico City then you have to argue that all of this was faked or planted or wrong. All of it.
You have brought all of this conveniently left behind for everyone to see evidence up earlier in the thread more than once and it has been discussed. What bilingual person saves their rough draft notes [in English] for a typed correspondence to be delivered to the Russians [in English] that states really nothing. Oswald knew how to spell his own wife's name demonstrated in other correspondence..but the typed letter doesn't spell it nearly right at all. Can we say it all stinks-- even after 56 years?
 
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we have physical evidence, photos, letters, handwriting/signature
We don't have jack crap.
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circumstantial evidence.
Yes plenty of that.

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #307 on: January 06, 2020, 05:07:13 PM »
You have brought all of this conveniently left behind for everyone to see evidence up earlier in the thread more than once and it has been discussed. What bilingual person saves their rough draft notes [in English] for a typed correspondence to be delivered to the Russians [in English] that states really nothing. Oswald knew how to spell his own wife's name demonstrated in other correspondence..but the typed letter doesn't spell it nearly right at all. Can we say it all stinks-- even after 56 years?
  We don't have jack crap.  Yes plenty of that.

There is unsolved controversy about the letter to the Russian embassy.....   Originally Ruth Paine said that Lee had asked to use her Cyrillic  typewriter to write the letter to the Russian Embassy. ( that makes sense if you think about it)  But when she spied on Lee and read the rough draft of the letter ( and copied it) she became angry because Lee had referred the the FBI as "notorious" she told him her Cyrillic typewriter was broken. So he was forced to use the English typewriter ( Ruth was far more fluent in English and could read what ever Lee wrote.)
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