Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy

[Steve Howsley]

The reporters who covered this event - the ones I've read such as Hugh Aynesworth - interviewed associates and colleagues of Oswald's. People who knew him. Marina, Robert Oswald and others. It was from these accounts and others where we have our understanding of the person.

I'd wager a large amount of money that those same reporters could paint a picture of Steve Galbraith that would have Joe Gullible loathing Galbraith....

Empty words as usual.

Those people knew Oswald or spoke with people who did. You didn't, I didn't, They Did.

[Bill Chapman]

Lets for arguments sake assume LHO did take a shot at walker.

This is where it all comes undone. On one hand they are presenting this like a totally innocent coincidence where they get him the job by chance and good intent but on the other is the walker evidence being revealed after the fact showing him to be an aspiring assassin all along.

So which one is it? You can?t have both.

Oh and BTW the route was changed, security was relaxed, the roof was off and the rear seats were raised up.

You wanna talk about getting Dracula a job at the blood bank?

What are the odds of this? any city in america,any route,any building on said route,any vip,any day. Thats one lucky lone gunman.He waited 5 weeks for his unlikely opportunity. So when was the last time a sitting US president drove through Dealey Plaza? NEVER? A mathematical impossibility? So If DNA evidence is based on mathematical probability why isn't this real evidence?

No assumption needed re Walker attempt.
No magic needed in any bullets that day unless they came from the knoll or a ghost.

Oh, btw.. apparently the back seat wasn't raised, the plastic roof wasn't bulletproof (or even bullet-resistant. Nor was the limo itself. In fact LBJ was aghast to learn that, especially when he found out Hoover himself had two bulletproof limos at his personal disposal.. one in California; the other in New York if I remember correctly.

[Michael Walton]

Sorry, Bill, you're wrong. Everything is just too pat, too perfect for all of this to happen like the WC tries to convey it to be. You can't have it both ways - we can't have Oswald like a "Tim McVeigh" - a loose cannon nobody who just decides to take a shot at Walker and then kill Kennedy - and then have all of these people in his life (Paine, George, Hosty, the folks down in NO) guiding him and Marina along, finding jobs for him, discovering evidence after the fact, saying they didn't like him but doing things for him.

Life doesn't work that way. I often imagine my own life (and you should too) - Oswald had to have been the luckiest person on Earth for all of things to have happened to him, by total strangers no less. But it wasn't luck - it all happened to lead up to 11/22.

If you can't get your head around it, then that's on you.

[Bill Chapman]

Sorry, Bill, you're wrong. Everything is just too pat, too perfect for all of this to happen like the WC tries to convey it to be. You can't have it both ways - we can't have Oswald like a "Tim McVeigh" - a loose cannon nobody who just decides to take a shot at Walker and then kill Kennedy - and then have all of these people in his life (Paine, George, Hosty, the folks down in NO) guiding him and Marina along, finding jobs for him, discovering evidence after the fact, saying they didn't like him but doing things for him.

Life doesn't work that way. I often imagine my own life (and you should too) - Oswald had to have been the luckiest person on Earth for all of things to have happened to him, by total strangers no less. But it wasn't luck - it all happened to lead up to 11/22.

If you can't get your head around it, then that's on you.

Wrong about what?

? The back seat wasn't raised (beyond normal)
? The plastic roof wasn't bulletproof
? The plastic roof wasn't bullet resistant
? The limo wasn't bulletproof
? LBJ was aghast to learn that, especially when he found out Hoover himself had two bulletproof limos at his personal disposal.. one in California; the other in New York if I remember correctly.

Well?

[Eddie Haymaker]

As usual you prove nothing and don't address the CRUX of the argument

The top wasn't bulletproof? who said it was?

Well at least we  would have known where the bullets came from aye?

once again answering questions nobody asked

But avoiding the elephant in the room

ALL those ridiculous circumstances  5 WEEKS - you gonna ignore that?

This is a classic case of ideology over intellect

[Richard Smith]

Anyone who suggests that Ruth Paine was involved in some type of conspiracy/frame up of Oswald is simply a few fries short of a happy meal.  That is Bigfoot-type nonsense.  Some obvious things RP would have done if she were involved in the frame up:

1) testify that Oswald stored a rifle in her garage
2) testify that Oswald disliked JFK
3) testify that Oswald was acting strangely the night before the assassination
4) confirm that Oswald carried a long package to work on the morning of the assassination.

She did none of these obvious things.

[Eddie Haymaker]

you're argument is weak and incidental

Oswald was arrested and charged with murdering the president

what more did she NEED to do?

It was mission accomplished

she ignored LHO's request for a lawyer

and buried him

THEN she finds the BS walker "evidence"

The saint like Ruth Paine didnt lift a finger for her "friend"

she maintains she never liked

pretty devious and deceptive for an angelic figure no?

Is she your auntie?