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Offline Paul May

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2018, 08:16:19 PM »
You cannot translate my theory using YOUR words stating they are my words.  My point was Oswald had the necessary skills for a relatively easy shot. This very debate has raged for 55 years and once again I will state it will never be resolved.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2018, 08:35:35 PM »
Evade what? There is no resolution. I cannot evade what doesn?t exist. Oswald was a successful assassin by inches.  No doubt, he was going for a head shot. The easiest shot was shot #3.  We can deduce that in reality he missed two out of three shots. Was it nerves? The 11 MPH wind he didn?t account for? Nobody knows. We?ll never know. Using Occam?s razor principles, Oswald hit the easy shot after missing intended target twice. This issue as most have been debated 55 years with no resolution to a 100% certainty. It cannot be resolved. We can only guess based on what we do know. JFK died and ALL the evidence points to LHO.

Mr May,  You're making quantum leaps here.....  You have NOT proved your statement that Lee Oswald was an expert who could fire a rusty old rifle with the scope mounted askew with world class precision and speed...

Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2018, 11:52:35 PM »
I think Mr May is right when he says

you could never convince everyone to agree on this case

But IMO the truth is there and it is obvious

A recent survey commissioned by the FiveThirtyEight news site, found that all these years on from that morning on November 22 1963, only 33 per cent of people believe the finding of the official Warren Commission, which concluded in 1964, that Oswald alone was responsible for Kennedy's death. A total of 61 per cent believe at least one other person was involved.

Lone nut advocates are the minority

and getting smaller everyday

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2018, 12:12:55 AM »
Perhaps, but there are no remaining answers.

The 1977 letter  of Billy Joe Lord and the brazen writing and TV debate from Nicholas B Lemann indicate there
was some sort of a tug of war ongoing, and this evidence is of cover up at the highest reaches....cover up of....what?

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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1439.0.html

....All that Lord described that is directlymaterial to the charge of Bush and those closest to him literally muscling Lord
in 1976, is on the table. However, I am now convinced after this week the haves are so far ahead, it cannot even be
a contest, anymore.

First, the core accusation, hyper curiousity displayed by team Bush towards Lord knowledge, as the HSCA geared up
and it had become clear republicans would lose control of the presidency and of the CIA. This answers the question
of why risk rattling Billy Lord's cage if you were among the innermost Bush circle?
......

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https://charlierose.com/videos/28642
Monday 12/30/1991 Journalist Nicholas Lemann, movie critic David Denby, and co-screenwriter Zachary Sklar debate Oliver Stone's movie "JFK"
as well as the facts surrounding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
....Charlie Rose: But first, Oliver Stone's new film "JFK" has opened to tremendous controversy. Much of the mainstream press thinks he has taken film making too far, tampering with perhaps the most seminal event in our recent history. Others believe he has reopened doors that were closed prematurely almost thirty years ago. Here to discuss the scope and the impact of the movie are its co-screenwriter, Zachary Sklar, who edited Jim Garrison's 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins. Also here, David Denby, the film critic for New York Magazine and journalist Nicholas Lemann, who wrote the recent cover story on JFK in GQ Magazine.....
Nicholas Lemann's father Thomas, uncle Stephen, and step-aunt Baldwin are all mentioned in this 1990
obit of his step-grandmother, widow of his grandfather, Monte Lemann:

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003004 Lemann ? Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann, A Homemaker, Died Friday At Her Home In New Orleans. She
Was 94. Mrs. Lemann Was A Lifelong Resident Of New Orleans. ? In 1929, She Worked At Metairie Park
Country Day School, Where She Coordinated The School?s Non-Academic Activities. Survivors Include A Daughter,
Mildred Lyons Baldwin;

A Sister, Ethel Crumb Brett; Two Stepsons, Thomas B. Lemann, And Stephen B. Lemann; ?. Times Picayune 01-14-1990

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GILPATRIC'S ROLE IN TFX QUESTIONED; McClellan Raises an...
- New York Times - Nov 19, 1963

...The session brought out that ,Mr. Gilpatric was influential in j Continued on Page 17, Column 3 GILPATRIC S ROLE ON TFX QUERIED Continued From Page 1, Col. 2 bringing the General Dynamics account to his law firm, that Maurice Moore, senior partner of the firm, was named to the General Dynamics board of directors one month after the TFX contract was awarded to the company. -Gilpatric's former law firm was named counsel for General Dynamics at the same time. -Gilpatric acknowledged that he spent about onefourth of his time as a lawyer during 2i4 years in the late 1950's handling General Dynamics matters, and GD paid his firm $111000 in legal fees during this same period....."

....and who can forget that Frank Pace joined the board of Time, Inc. just after Henry Luce's sister's husband,former publisher of Time Maurice "Tex" Moore and his law partner Roz Gilpatric negotiated the merger of Pace's General Dynamics
with "Henry Crown, Inc.?"
April 22, 1960 WSJ:


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MAURICE T. MOORE DIES AT 90; EX-CRAVATH, SWAINE PARTNER

By JOAN COOK (The New York Times); Obituary

June 24, 1986, Tuesday

Late City Final Edition, Section A, Page 25, Column 1,325 words

Maurice T. Moore, a former presiding partner in the New York law firm of Cravath, Swaine & Moore, died Sunday at his apartment in Manhattan. He was 90 years old and also lived in Weston, Conn. Mr. Moore was associated with the firm from 1920 to 1967 and became presiding partner in 1963.

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Boston Globe, The (MA) - June 25, 1986

Deceased Name: MAURICE MOORE , 90 WAS CHAIRMAN OF TIME INC.

NEW YORK -- Maurice T. Moore, former chairman of Time Inc., has died at the age of 90.

Mr. Moore died Sunday in his Manhattan apartment. He also had a home in Weston, Conn.

Mr. Moore worked with the law firm of Cravath, Swaine & Moore from 1920 to 1967 and became presiding partner in 1963.

In 1927, the firm became counsel for Time Inc. Mr. Moore, whose brother- in-law, Henry Luce, founded the magazine in 1923, was elected to Time's board of directors in 1939 and remained on it until 1970. He was chairman from 1942 to 1960.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 12:29:50 AM »
I think Mr May is right when he says

you could never convince everyone to agree on this case

But IMO the truth is there and it is obvious

A recent survey commissioned by the FiveThirtyEight news site, found that all these years on from that morning on November 22 1963, only 33 per cent of people believe the finding of the official Warren Commission, which concluded in 1964, that Oswald alone was responsible for Kennedy's death. A total of 61 per cent believe at least one other person was involved.

Lone nut advocates are the minority

and getting smaller everyday

Quite candidly the truth doesn?t require people to believe it.  You didn?t give the year of this latest survey you mentioned but I will point one thing out to you.  The median age in America today is 37
years old. So, how many of these people are knowledgeable about an event 18 years before they were born?  So much for surveys.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2018, 12:57:12 AM »
Quite candidly the truth doesn?t require people to believe it.  You didn?t give the year of this latest survey you mentioned but I will point one thing out to you.  The median age in America today is 37
years old. So, how many of these people are knowledgeable about an event 18 years before they were born?  So much for surveys.

So, what's your point? That the Kennedy murder is already part of history and that Oswald is in the history books as the lone nut killer?
Does that somehow make you feel good?

If that's the case, you might want to read up on the Reichtag fire and Marinus van der Lubbe in 1933 or, the execution of the Duke de Enghien by order of Napoleon I in 1804. History is littered with "official" versions that have very little to do with the truth.

Your entire point in this thread seems to be that there wasn't a conspiracy simply because it can't be proven there was one. I agree that a conspiracy can't be proven with the evidence available today but I disagree that this justifies the conclusion that there wasn't a conspiracy.
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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: There is only one remaining question
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2018, 01:02:35 AM »
After 55 years, was somebody else pulling Oswald?s strings?  It?s unlikely as time passes whether this sole question will ever be answered. I, for one doubt it. History has recorded LHO as the one shooter. I agree with this to a 99% certainty.  That 1% remains elusive.

If he acted alone, what was his motive?