USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #294 on: December 21, 2018, 11:39:59 PM »
No, you either inadvertantly or intentionally conflated the panel's description of photos taken of the rifle being brought out of the TSBD on the day of the assassination with the backyard photos.  The panel made no such conclusion about the backyard photos.  As I already pointed out, the best they could say is that Cecil Kirk thought the scales were tipped in the direction of it being the same rifle.  Not anywhere near "identical".

Since this has already been pointed out to you multiple times, you've gone from "mistaken" to "lying".  Just like you lied about Frazier saying the bag was made out of heavy duty paper.

That's a copout from somebody who can't or won't actually articulate what evidence places Oswald firing a rifle at the motorcade.

No, that's your rhetoric to minimize the fact that you're making claims you can't support.

Because I never made the claim that Oswald is innocent.  I'm pointing out that your case against him is weak, rhetorical, and nowhere near a beyond a reasonable doubt standard.  Your claim doesn't just win by default if I can't prove you wrong.  That's another fallacy.

I'm not "creating" anything.  What little evidence that exists in this case is questionable, impeachable, arguable, or tainted in some way.  I didn't make that happen.

No, you either inadvertantly or intentionally conflated the panel's description of photos taken of the rifle being brought out of the TSBD on the day of the assassination with the backyard photos.  The panel made no such conclusion about the backyard photos.  As I already pointed out, the best they could say is that Cecil Kirk thought the scales were tipped in the direction of it being the same rifle.  Not anywhere near "identical".

You either do not know how to read or you intentionally misrepresent what I posted about the subject (nice way of saying you are lying). I believe it's the latter. Richard Smith is sooooo  right about you.


Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #295 on: December 21, 2018, 11:55:54 PM »
No, you either inadvertantly or intentionally conflated the panel's description of photos taken of the rifle being brought out of the TSBD on the day of the assassination with the backyard photos.  The panel made no such conclusion about the backyard photos.  As I already pointed out, the best they could say is that Cecil Kirk thought the scales were tipped in the direction of it being the same rifle.  Not anywhere near "identical".

You either do not know how to read or you intentionally misrepresent what I posted about the subject (nice way of saying you are lying). I believe it's the latter. Richard Smith is sooooo  right about you.

Actually, John is spot on with his comments. IMO, this, in part, is why you abandoned our conversation about the subject. The one misrepresenting things is you?.


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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #296 on: December 22, 2018, 03:23:26 PM »
Detective Studebaker made a map of the sixth floor and recorded the locations of the various pieces of evidence on that map.  He made precise measurements and recorded the measurements on the map.   He recorded that the rifle was 15 feet 4 inches south of the north wall of the TSBD....   ( LOOK at the map) 
https://zmail04-mta.peak.org/service/home/~/?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=6209&part=2

Deputy Boone said that the rifle was about 8 feet south of the south end of the partition on the east side of the stairway.  Boone's estimate fits very nicely with Studebakers actual measurement.   Studebakers measurement places the rifle about 5 feet from the row of boxes that formed the E / W/ aisle at the top of the stairs....That rifle was NOT jammed down between boxes ....It was laying on the floor just as Seymour Weitzman said.  " I got down on the floor and shined my light beneath a pallet and I saw the rifle laying on the floor"

15 Feet 4 inches from the north wall.....That's the distance that Detective Studebaker measured to the point on the floor where the carcano was laying.   And Deputy Boone estimated the distance as about 8 feet from the stairway partition ( or a distance from the north wall of about 15.5 feet.  )   
15 feet  4 inches places the rifle about 5 feet from the row of boxes that formed the aisle at the top of the stairs.

Lee Oswald was 5' 9" tall....It would have been impossible for him to reach across that 5 foot span with a feather ...and the carcano weighed eight pounds....   

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #297 on: December 22, 2018, 08:26:59 PM »
You either do not know how to read or you intentionally misrepresent what I posted about the subject (nice way of saying you are lying). I believe it's the latter. Richard Smith is sooooo  right about you.

You're in good company -- "Richard Smith" lies about the evidence too.

You posted a quote from the HSCA photo panel saying that the rifle seen in photos being carried out of the TSBD on the day of the assassination was matched to CE139 and tried to misrepresent that as being about the rifle in the backyard photos.

You claimed that the HSCA photo panel identified the rifle in the backyard photos as CE 139 to the exclusion of any other rifle and then when called on that, you "amended" the claim to say that the photo panel said they were identical.  Then you "amended" that to say that they said it was identical using different words.

All three versions are false.

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #298 on: December 23, 2018, 07:42:00 PM »
WC and HSCA handwriting experts reached the conclusion that it was Oswald who wrote the name Hidell and other aliases in documents used as evidence that it was Oswald who ordered both the MC rifle and the S&W revolver and in fake ID's and certificate of immunization. Oswald also used Hidell as an official of the fake FPCC chapter in NO. For the actual documents go to the WR and look for them or the notes which direct where to look for them in the accompanying 26 volumes of hearings, exhibits and documents.

BTW, since you don't believe that Willliam Whaley was thruthful then you accept that Oswald got on his taxicab at 12:30PM?

They gave a biased (all the experts worked with or depended on the government for their livelihoods) opinion. Nothing more. LHO was not allowed to do the same.

This is hardly proof as you claim.

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #299 on: December 24, 2018, 01:03:22 AM »
They gave a biased (all the experts worked with or depended on the government for their livelihoods) opinion. Nothing more. LHO was not allowed to do the same.

This is hardly proof as you claim.

None of the HSCA handwriting experts worked for the FBI nor had any prior experience working on the JFK assassination investigation. Perhaps you can enlighten as to which government agencies they were employed by.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2018, 03:36:05 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: USPS workers screwing things up i.e..LHO receiving c2766
« Reply #300 on: December 24, 2018, 02:32:33 PM »
All that demonstrates is that he was too cheap to pay a hospital bill.

Have you considered that he knew that he had Hospitalization insurance provided by the "Red Cross"....