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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2018, 03:54:10 PM »
At the same time Oswald was getting buried in Fort Worth Tx, he was also getting buried in Washington DC.....

 A memo to a 'Mr Moyers' [Would that be LBJ pal Bill Moyers?] Apparently so and it was not disclosed for years.https://www.justice-integrity.org/771-much-too-late-public-learns-of-bill-moyers-conflicts-over-pbs-lbj
Nov 25, 1963
   https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62268#relPageId=29
"Rumor and speculation"..."The facts seems too pat-too obvious" [really?]..... barely one day after Oswald was killed.
     

Wasn't Bill Moyers called in immediately after the shooting? As I recall all air traffic in and out of Love Field was halted  immediately after the murder of President Kennedy...BUT LBJ personally authorized the plane carrying Bill Moyers from Houston to land at Love.   

I noticed this in the article that you linked to.....

We now know about the once-secret 1960s Operation Mockingbird program and a 1967 CIA directive to smear government critics as "conspiracy theorists." CIA Dispatch 1035-960 instructed agents to contact their media contacts and urge them to disparage those who criticize the Warren Commission findings. The 150-page CIA document is here in the original, and here in reformatted text of its summary.

Even in media circles or popular discussions today about civic affairs, many people respond to new information by stating they are not interested in criticism of government on sensitive matters because it might be considered "conspiracy theory." Few repeating such adages seem to know that a secret government plan in 1967 popularized those words to immunize government in effect from any suspicions of gross misconduct in major events.


The smearing of us critics continues to this very day....  I'm convinced that there are agents who are paid with our tax dollars posting right here in this forum...Their mission is ..quote.."to disparage those who criticize the Warren Commission findings."

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 05:08:39 PM »
IMO, yer a day late and a dollar short.
Not sure what that all means after viewing hundreds of other lines mostly unrelated to the topic....a mediocre presentation of copy and paste.
IMO-It is more like 55 years late and countless time and dollars not solving anything.
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"to disparage those who criticize the Warren Commission findings."
It did not take long for J Lee Rankin and company to sic the FBI dogs on Mark Lane.
This was after the chief counsel wrote a really sweet and lovely letter to Mr Lane telling him how fervently the case was to be studied by the president's commission.
Rankin wrote a letter to the world explicitly refuting Lane's claims that Oswald might have not been the perpetrator of the assassination. Files have been released through the years that confirm the FBI investigated Mark Lane much more thoroughly than they ever did the assassination of President  Kennedy........

  http://www.paperlessarchives.com/jfk-assassination-mark-lane.html
All I have time for in this reply....I'm 'a day late and a dollar short'   

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2018, 08:01:19 PM »
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The disclosure about Marcello in the newly released FBI files supports the conclusions of the most qualified expert on the JFK assassination?G. Robert Blakey, who was chief counsel and staff director to the mid-1970's House Select Committee on Assassinations. In The Plot to Kill the President in 1981, Blakey found that Marcello and two other godfathers?Santos Trafficante of Florida and Chicago Outfit boss Sam "Mooney" Giancana?were complicit in planning Kennedy's slaying in Dallas.

Oswald had Mob ties in New Orleans through his uncle, Charles "Dutz" Murret, who was a bookie for Sam Saia, a gambling kingpin and Marcello sidekick. In 1963, when Oswald was living in New Orleans, he worked for Saia as a runner at Felix Oyster House?one of Saia's French Quarter bookmaking parlors?according to Blakey. In a Nov. 7, 1993 Washington Post article, Blakey also pointed out that John H. Davis interviewed Joseph Hauser, a witness in a federal criminal investigation of Marcello, for his Marcello biography, Mafia Kingfish. Hauser reconstructed for Davis a statement Marcello made to him:

    **Oswald? I used to know his [expletive] family. His uncle he work for me. The kid work for me to. He worked for Sam outta his place downtown ... The feds came ... askin' about him, but my people didn't tell 'em nothing.' Like we never heard of the guy...
http://www.crimemagazine.com/did-jack-ruby-know-lee-harvey-oswald?fbclid=IwAR0VM9gCnH_9NmDHNMEcxU9UyXfmVxbOVPPjBNlZB92dBUJtKMx2aSqe8oI
**Totally doubtful that Ruby really knew Oswald but very likely that a colleague who strongly resembled LHO was recruited for the plot.
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol9/pdf/HSCA_Vol9_4_Oswald.pdf
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2018, 08:19:21 PM »
At the same time Oswald was getting buried in Fort Worth Tx, he was also getting buried in Washington DC.....

 A memo to a 'Mr Moyers' [Would that be LBJ pal Bill Moyers?] Apparently so and it was not disclosed for years.https://www.justice-integrity.org/771-much-too-late-public-learns-of-bill-moyers-conflicts-over-pbs-lbj
Nov 25, 1963
   https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62268#relPageId=29
"Rumor and speculation"..."The facts seems too pat-too obvious" [really?]..... barely one day after Oswald was killed.
     

Was this the letter from Katzenbach...

 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62268#relPageId=29

The closing is stunning....  The FBI has the reputation and is capable of pulling the wool over the eyes of the gullible pissants....

I overheard a diner in a cafe at breakfast this morning say something that was stunning....

The subject under discussion was the corruption of the FBI that is currently in the news.   The man said something like " The FBI has always been corrupt....  J.Edgar Hoover was in bed with the mafia, and the FBI was no different than the mafia."

That may be a bit over the top and too inclusive.  The vast majority of the FBI agents were good honorable men....But Hoover had his own secret mafia of fiercely loyal  FBI agents and "EX" agents.  ( agents who officially had retired from the FBI)

Perhaps there are some Americans who recognize the rotten mess that exists on the Potomac...
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 12:06:54 AM »
At the same time Oswald was getting buried in Fort Worth Tx, he was also getting buried in Washington DC.....

 A memo to a 'Mr Moyers' [Would that be LBJ pal Bill Moyers?] Apparently so and it was not disclosed for years.https://www.justice-integrity.org/771-much-too-late-public-learns-of-bill-moyers-conflicts-over-pbs-lbj
Nov 25, 1963
   https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62268#relPageId=29
"Rumor and speculation"..."The facts seems too pat-too obvious" [really?]..... barely one day after Oswald was killed.
     

Jerry, et al.,

Has it ever occurred to you that the CIA, for national security reasons, covered up KGB and/or DGI complicity in the assassination, and that FBI covered it up for face-saving reasons?

--  Tommy  :)
« Last Edit: January 01, 2019, 12:53:49 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2019, 02:31:19 PM »
     
Has it ever occurred to you that the CIA, for national security reasons, covered up KGB and/or DGI complicity in the assassination, and that FBI covered it up for face-saving reasons?
I don't know what DGI is. The Soviets had no motive. So scratch that. Hoover didn't like the Kennedys anyway and welcomed a change in the administration....he didn't really care what actually happened and just ran along with the lone nut story. Simple as that.
   

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Blueprint for a cover-up.....
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2019, 03:04:27 PM »
I don't know what DGI is. The Soviets had no motive. So scratch that. Hoover didn't like the Kennedys anyway and welcomed a change in the administration....he didn't really care what actually happened and just ran along with the lone nut story. Simple as that.
 

Jerry,

In my humble opinion, your "simple" history is for gullible simpletons.

Have you read chapter ten of Mark Riebling's  Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA?

Yes, or no, Jerry?

(Scroll down and click on the "full size" icon. Chapter ten starts on page "372" on my android. Khrushchev's reasons for killing JFK start in the middle of page "390".)
https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/page/n371

-- Tommy  :)

PS  The theory is not about "the Soviets" in general, Jerry, but  one particular Soviet, Nikita Khrushchev.

PPS  (DGI = Cuban Intelligence)
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