55 years later...

[Oscar Navarro]

There are unconfirmed claims of people expressing knowledge of an attempt on Kennedy's life being imminent in the days and weeks prior to 11/22/63.

Some or all of those claims may lack credibility but I'm not confident enough to say that Oswald is the only one who knew Kennedy would be shot that day.

Hell, we don't even have enough evidence to prove Oswald knew prior to 11/22/63 that Kennedy's parade route would pass TSBD :

Mr. JARMAN: Well, he was standing up in the window and I went to the window also, and he asked me what were the people gathering around on the corner for, and I told him that the President was supposed to pass that morning, and he asked me did I know which way he was coming, and I told him, yes; he probably come down Main and turn on Houston and then back again on Elm. Then he said, "Oh, I see," and that was all.

We also know that Oswald was a confirmed liar and manipulator so his comment to Junior must be taken with a grain of salt the size of Manhattan Island.

[Oscar Navarro]

Allan, in reply #13 I asked if you could provide this august forum with your opinion on how Oswald got the job at the book depository. It's just a simple question that deserves to be the subject for discussion and debate, particularly since, IMHO, you brought it up with the implied purpose of it having sinister motives. I would appreciate a reply addressing this subject only.

[Jon Banks]

We also know that Oswald was a confirmed liar and manipulator so his comment to Junior must be taken with a grain of salt the size of Manhattan Island.

I don?t think one incident alone exonerates Oswald but why did he give the impression that he was unaware of the event planned for that day? I?ve never seen a satisfactory answer...

[Oscar Navarro]

I don?t think one incident alone exonerates Oswald but why did he give the impression that he was unaware of the event planned for that day? I?ve never seen a satisfactory answer...

I just provided the answer. Oswald was a manipulator and likely made that comment to Junior to sow the seeds of doubts.

[Jon Banks]

I just provided the answer. Oswald was a manipulator and likely made that comment to Junior to sow the seeds of doubts.

But why choose Jarman? Why not Roy Truly or Wesley Frazier who would more likely have been expected to be witnesses?

If Lee was such a smart criminal that he was manufacturing Doubt before committing the crime, why did he allegedly do dumb stuff like walk around with an Identification Card that linked him to the purchase of the rifle?

It seems that some try to have it both ways with Oswald. One minute, he?s a deranged and irrational guy who is unable to hide his animosity towards Gen Edwin Walker from his family and friends. The next minute, he?s a manipulative and clever criminal who deliberately avoided giving any hints that he disliked JFK or wanted to harm the President.

[Oscar Navarro]

But why choose Jarman? Why not Roy Truly or Wesley Frazier who would more likely have been expected to be witnesses?

If Lee was such a smart criminal that he was manufacturing Doubt before committing the crime, why did he allegedly do dumb stuff like walk around with an Identification Card that linked him to the purchase of the rifle?

It seems that some try to have it both ways with Oswald. One minute, he?s a deranged and irrational guy who is unable to hide his animosity towards Gen Edwin Walker from his family and friends. The next minute, he?s a manipulative and clever criminal who deliberately avoided giving any hints that he disliked JFK or wanted to harm the President.

I don't know why Oswald chose Jarman. Maybe because he was there. Choosing Frazier would have been taking too much of a chance, IMO. Frazier was the guy who you wouldn't want to raise the level of curiosity that just might put two and two together. Hmmmm.., long parcel, changing normal routine, President motorcade passing just in front of the building.


I believe Oswald was a desperate, but not necessarily an intelligent, criminal. When Oswald asked Junior about the commotion outside to pretend he was unaware of the Presidential motorcade passing in front of the TSBD it's possible he was trying to dissuade suspicions about his whereabouts when he took aim and fired at JFK.


I don't believe Oswald told anybody that he planned to shot Walker. It was only after the deed was done that he told Marina and months later went with Michael Paine to a meeting of some kind were Walker was discussed. As to Oswald deciding to shoot JFK I believe Oswald's fight with Marina about signing O. H. Lee in the rooming house and her rejection to his offer to move back together drove him over the cliff.

[Jon Banks]

I don't know why Oswald chose Jarman. Maybe because he was there. Choosing Frazier would have been taking too much of a chance, IMO. Frazier was the guy who you wouldn't want to raise the level of curiosity that just might put two and two together. Hmmmm.., long parcel, changing normal routine, President motorcade passing just in front of the building.


I believe Oswald was a desperate, but not necessarily an intelligent, criminal. When Oswald asked Junior about the commotion outside to pretend he was unaware of the Presidential motorcade passing in front of the TSBD it's possible he was trying to dissuade suspicions about his whereabouts when he took aim and fired at JFK.

It?s fine to admit we don?t know why Oswald did certain things. Most of the speculation I?ve seen around his conversation with Jarman seems insufficient as explainations.

I don't believe Oswald told anybody that he planned to shot Walker. It was only after the deed was done that he told Marina and months later went with Michael Paine to a meeting of some kind were Walker was discussed. As to Oswald deciding to shoot JFK I believe Oswald's fight with Marina about signing O. H. Lee in the rooming house and her rejection to his offer to move back together drove him over the cliff.

Oswald?s animus towards Walker was expressed to his friends and in his writing. Hence why DeMorenschildt suspected Oswald was involved with the Walker shooting attempt.

In stark contrast, Oswald only signaled to his friends and Marina that he liked JFK and approved of his job as President.