Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #147 on: October 12, 2018, 09:53:07 PM »
In Altgens 6 the Zoom lens males it appear as though the man in the suit was standing next to the woman and child, and that they were standing just behind the white column.

They were NOT standing together, and were not just standing behind the white column.



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #148 on: October 12, 2018, 09:54:48 PM »
No the TSBD entrance does not appear to be beside the pylon....It appears to be in the background .....



    Anyone that looks at that photo and believes they are seeing the pylon beside the TSBD needs to have their peepers checked out. Maybe this Peeper Problem explains the erroneous interpretation of the Altgens photo. Then again, maybe they are just afraid to Admit they cavalierly rubber stamped an erroneous Claim for decades?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #149 on: October 12, 2018, 09:58:14 PM »
    Anyone that looks at that photo and believes they are seeing the pylon beside the TSBD needs to have their peepers checked out. Maybe this Peeper Problem explains the erroneous interpretation of the Altgens photo. Then again, maybe they are just afraid to Admit they cavalierly rubber stamped an erroneous Claim for decades?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #150 on: October 12, 2018, 10:00:25 PM »
Robin, What is that dance you doing called?

      I think he should call it the "Zoom Chicka BOOM".  The "Boom" is his head exploding as he melts down with his numerous photogs using numerous Zoom lenses excuse. Sad
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #151 on: October 12, 2018, 10:31:33 PM »
Regarding Chaney's hand seen through the window.
we can also clearly see the black mans white shirt and black trousers.

Man (1) is atanding on the sidewalk
Altgen 6 / Croft Credit: Martin Hinrichs

Altgens Zoom lense makes things in the backround appear closer than they really are.

The sightline from Altgens to the corner of the concrete pillar east of the lamp post passes over the hood ornament on the front of the limo.  Chaney is north (left) of that.  It seems to me that your drawing has misplaced either Altgens or the limo or both:

There were two motorcycle riders on each side. Chaney and Jackson were to the right (north) side of the motorcade.  In Altgens, we can only see one. Where is the other one? 
We can see a motorcycle front wheel pull up to the side of the president's car in z307 (sprocket area below z307 appears as double exposure at top of z308).  Do we know that that is Chaney? 

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #152 on: October 12, 2018, 10:43:43 PM »
The sightline from Altgens to the corner of the concrete pillar east of the lamp post passes over the hood ornament on the front of the limo.  Chaney is north (left) of that.  It seems to me that your drawing has misplaced either Altgens or the limo or both:

There were two motorcycle riders on each side. Chaney and Jackson were to the right (north) side of the motorcade.  In Altgens, we can only see one. Where is the other one? 
We can see a motorcycle front wheel pull up to the side of the president's car in z307 (sprocket area below z307 appears as double exposure at top of z308).  Do we know that that is Chaney?

Andrew try reversing that LOS from the center of the third window ( see Elsie Dorman circled) through the west corner of that concrete pylon.....and on to the triple underpass ....   Then do the same starting at the east side of the fourt set of windows and deaw the line through the street light and on to the triple underpass .......The point where the two lines you've drawn meet is where Altgens was standing ....and the place where the first line you drew line would pass through the hood ornament of the Lincoln is where the Lincoln was.    I believe you'll discover that Altgens was in the street in the south traffic lane  north of the "Mary Moorman " location on the plat.   And he was in fact only about 25 feet from the Lincoln.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #153 on: October 12, 2018, 10:57:57 PM »
It's called perspective 101

Many people over the years have fallen into the Altgens 6 perspective trap.

I argued with Cinque for years over the same thing

It's called perspective 101...

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