In 54 years has it ever been proven that CE399 is the bullet found at Parkland?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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It's as much a truly sad state of affairs as highly revealing about their lack of confidence in their own arguments that, so far, no LN has had the guts to even try and show that the bullet now known as CE399 was ever at Parkland Hospital!

How can you have a SBT when you can't even demonstrate the authenticity of the most important bullet in that tale?
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Offline Ross Lidell

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I don't doubt that CE399 is the bullet that was found at Parkland....but how it got there cannot be proven.
I don't doubt that it was fired from C2766....but when and where cannot be proven.

If you don't doubt that CE399 was fired from C2766: How was Oswald's Carcano rifle obtained from the Paine's garage and put back there?

Easy stuff like: Who, When etc?

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Response from the "Oswald did it" crowd:

That's a devil of a challenge, John.  >:(

Good to see you are still using my "ODIA" acronym. Oswald did it... alone.

I know it's hard for you to accept this fact: The ballistic tests that link CE399 to C2766 "to the exclusion of all other weapons" is sufficient to confirm that the "almost whole" missile is one of the three shots fired from the SE corner of the TSBD at President Kennedy.

To successfully challenge that fact requires "supporting evidence". Some sort of plausible narrative with names, places and times will do.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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If you don't doubt that CE399 was fired from C2766: How was Oswald's Carcano rifle obtained from the Paine's garage and put back there?

Easy stuff like: Who, When etc?

Can you show that the rifle now in evidence as C2766 was ever stored in Ruth Paine's garage?

Online Martin Weidmann

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That's a devil of a challenge, John.  >:(

Good to see you are still using my "ODIA" acronym. Oswald did it... alone.

I know it's hard for you to accept this fact: The ballistic tests that link CE399 to C2766 "to the exclusion of all other weapons" is sufficient to confirm that the "almost whole" missile is one of the three shots fired from the SE corner of the TSBD at President Kennedy.

To successfully challenge that fact requires "supporting evidence". Some sort of plausible narrative with names, places and times will do.

The ballistic tests that link CE399 to C2766 "to the exclusion of all other weapons" is sufficient to confirm that the "almost whole" missile is one of the three shots fired from the SE corner of the TSBD at President Kennedy. 

Nope. Not even close! The ballistic tests only show that CE399 was fired by C2766... That's it! Everything else is your imagination.

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The ballistic tests that link CE399 to C2766 "to the exclusion of all other weapons" is sufficient to confirm that the "almost whole" missile is one of the three shots fired from the SE corner of the TSBD at President Kennedy. 

Nope. Not even close! The ballistic tests only show that CE399 was fired by C2766... That's it! Everything else is your imagination.

You're wrong! Apart from the Warren Commission Report: Joseph D. Nichol (Superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal Investigation for the State Of Illinois) was interviewed by CBS for the 1967 Investigation into the Warren Report.


Walter Lister CBS: "In the case of the virtually intact bullet that was found on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital and the two fairly sizeable fragments found in the front of the Presidential limousine: you felt that those were definitely fired from Oswald's rifle"?

Joseph D. Nichol: "Yes sir".

Walter Lister CBS: "To the exclusion of all others"?
 
Joseph D. Nichol: "To the exclusion of all others - right".

Nichol's statement trumps YOUR imagination.
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Can you show that the rifle now in evidence as C2766 was ever stored in Ruth Paine's garage?

From Wikipedia: Marina Oswald Porter

Marina learned of the assassination of President Kennedy from the media coverage of the event, and later, of the arrest of her husband. That afternoon, Dallas Police Department detectives arrived at the Paine household, and when asked if Lee owned a rifle, she gestured to the garage, where Oswald stored his rifle rolled up in a blanket; no rifle was found.

In case you get all cute and suggest the incident proves that the rifle was not in the garage: Marina expected it to be there!!!

In case you try to be even cuter and claim it was some other rifle: The rifle (C2766) in the national archives in Washington is the same one in the backyard photos taken at 214 W. Neely Street Dallas in late March of 1963.

Marina Oswald testified twice that she took the photos of Lee Oswald holding the rifle:

1.) The Warren Commission - 1964
2.) The House Select Committee on Assassinations - 1978

The rifle was taken from Dallas to New Orleans in Ruth Paine's station wagon and returned to the suburb of Irving in Dallas where it lay in a blanket in Paine's garage. Only a "confirmed" contrarian would believe that C2766 was never in the Paine's garage.