Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

[Jerry Freeman]

Marina was asked dozens of times about the "rifle" by the WC.  In each instance she responds to those questions without ever once suggesting there is any doubt that the item she saw was a "rifle" and not just some object made of wood as Martin dishonestly suggests. 

Martin Weidmann is dishonest but Saint Marina was without sin and any ulterior motive to throw her dead husband under the bus with extreme prejudice.

[Richard Smith]

Pro-tip: Read what you quote.

It was always in the same place.

Not so, according to Ruth and Michael Paine, and that's how we know somebody in the Irving household kooked up a blanket story.

What was always in the same place?  The rifle!  The relevant point being that Marina confirms with no ambiguity whatsoever that Oswald possessed a rifle and kept in the Paine's garage.  She was not referring to a hockey stick or some other object made of "wood".  Whew.

[Richard Smith]

Martin Weidmann is dishonest but Saint Marina was without sin and any ulterior motive to throw her dead husband under the bus with extreme prejudice.

Read Marina's testimony and tell us if it contains any ambiguity whatsoever regarding whether she confirmed that Oswald kept a rifle in the Paine's garage.  In fact, when the police arrived just hours after the assassination, she directed them to the blanket in Paine's garage expecting them to the find the rifle.  She was "surprised" that it wasn't there.  Is that indicative of someone who was uncertain that the object she saw was a rifle as Martin suggested or not?  And was she already involved in the plot to frame Oswald at the moment the police arrived on 11.22? 

[John Iacoletti]

Yes they do.

How?  All they tell you is when the orders were processed.

[John Iacoletti]

The fact that Oswald left his wedding ring behind at the Paine house on the morning of November 22nd (something he had never done before) is most definitely one of the pieces of circumstantial evidence that leads in the direction of Oswald's guilt. Only a staunch CTer would think otherwise.

No, it's pure confirmation bias and rhetoric.  It's not evidence at all.

[John Iacoletti]

It's a simple matter of being able to add up and reasonably evaluate the evidence (including Lee Oswald's very important actions and movements on both Nov. 21 and 22).

"reasonable evaluation" defined as accepting DVPs speculation and assumptions as facts and evidence.

IMO, conspiracy theorists never seem to want to do this "adding up" of the evidence at all.

0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 0

[John Iacoletti]

Marina SAW the damn thing in the garage in October.

Marina peeked in the end of a rolled and tied blanket and saw part of a wooden stock that she took to be a rifle.  In late September or early October.

Plus: We know that LHO had his rifle in New Orleans in the summer of '63.

A rifle.  You don't know which one.

And we also know that all his possessions were transported to Irving in Ruth's car in Sept. '63.

We don't know a rifle was amongst them.

1. Lee Oswald has possession of a rifle in New Orleans in Summer 1963. (And Marina sees Lee working the bolt of the gun on the screened-in porch in that city.)

False.  She heard some noises from inside.

4. Lee Oswald carries a long-ish paper package into the TSBD on the morning of 11/22/63. (And Lee lies to Buell Wesley Frazier about the contents of that package.)

You don't know he lied about the contents.